Dems labor for sure majority on pullout

Sounds like a bad idea, naming an official end date for the war. It almost gaurantees a failure, don't you think?

Personally, I want to see our troops come home, but at the same time, it would be nice to see a decisive victory in Iraq.

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LET ME SEE YOUR WAR FACE!!!

The deadline is a year and a half away, and could always be adjusted based on events on the ground. If we haven't shown serious progress by then, we're not going to.

I truly hope the insurgents take up Caraveggio's suggestion. If they lay low for 18 months, we win. Because we'll spend those 18 months establishing security, rebuilding infrastructure, training more Iraqi troops and finding and confiscating weapons caches.

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Scarred survivor of the April 2008 Mod War.

It's already working. My friends' son....a Marine right in the thick of things there in the Baghdad area.....has said they are having a hard time getting the enemy to engage.

But we don't need to be giving a date certain. It only harms us. The President has every desire to get us out of there as soon as possible. And that's good enough for me.

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"This is a time for a national imperative not to fail in Iraq." Condoleeza Rice, January 11, 2007

Not really... the TERRORIST will see it as a sign of western WEAKNESS to not finish the job at hand..as OBL predicted.

But then it would be just another empty gesture.

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LET ME SEE YOUR WAR FACE!!!

Was that any different then Bush's plan? in what way is that not the same?
oh, forgive me, I forgot, it's not good if a dem did not think it up.

With that said, it's the same, and still does not come with a plan to make sure events on the ground get better.

You Dems surprise me.

Whatever this president has done has been good enough for you. That is your problem, no matter how many times this administration lies, fails and even destroys the principles of this nation, it is good enough for you.

Once again, a thread is turned into a rant against JP5 instead of the topic of the thread.

JP5 is from Texas just like Bush.
Do you really think he will give you an unbiased opinion?
That's like Bush himself telling the "truth."
Make you wonder if this is the attitude of most people in Texas.
I wonder who they will vote for in 2008?
All the candidates (Rep. and Dem.) are campaigning on the platform of getting the troops out of Iraq.
Make you wonder how these pro war advocates are going to vote next year.

The topic of this thread is Democrats push for definitive end date to the Iraq war.

It is not about:
-JP5 (Who isn't a "he" by the way)
-Bias
-People in Texas
-Voter leanings for 2008

if you're gonna do things right, you phase them, which is exactly what is going on at the Pentagon.

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And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.

And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country.