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Default simple question fo the armchair experts

this is a simple question for those of you who have taken more than 3 seconds to read about social sciences.(you know who you are )

some of you aspiring social scientists out there believe that when it comes to politics, you can't legislate morality.

if that is true, that morality cannot be legislated, how in the world do you expect common curtisey to be legislated? i'm referring specifically to the politcal correct police out there, who attempt to ruin anyone's life if they think that something coming out of that person's mouth is "offensive".

so have a go at explaining how this could be.....

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Old 04-10-2007, 01:57 PM
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PC, whatever its faults, is not legislation.
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PC, whatever its faults, is not legislation.
it might as well be. look at what it bought Imus.
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"might as well be" does not make it law....
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"might as well be" does not make it law....
its good you libs are lerning when to call it quits.
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So people should be immune to any reaction to their words? That makes no sense.

Calling for a boycott is exercising free speech in response to someone else's exercise of free speech. Imus cannot be jailed for what he said; that's good. Imus could lose his job for what he said; that's life in the marketplace.
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So people should be immune to any reaction to their words? That makes no sense.

Calling for a boycott is exercising free speech in response to someone else's exercise of free speech. Imus cannot be jailed for what he said; that's good. Imus could lose his job for what he said; that's life in the marketplace.
i find it ironic that people are more acceptting of hearing the f word in public than people using the word gay. i find it ironic that jesse jackson and al sharpton have said worse about their own people, yet no one raises a finger to criticize.

yeah.... your explanation really explains it all.
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i find it ironic that people are more acceptting of hearing the f word in public than people using the word gay.
I don't think that's true, except when gay is being used as an epithet. And then the difference is that the f-word is merely vulgar, while the other is a personal attack.

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No one cares if Jews tell Jewish jokes. There's a difference between poking fun at yourself and being made fun of by someone else.

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yeah.... your explanation really explains it all.
I wasn't attempting a substantive reply to your question. Simply noting a flaw in the logic.
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i find it ironic that people are more acceptting of hearing the f word in public than people using the word gay.
I don't think that's true, except when gay is being used as an epithet. And then the difference is that the f-word is merely vulgar, while the other is a personal attack.

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i find it ironic that jesse jackson and al sharpton have said worse about their own people, yet no one raises a finger to criticize.
No one cares if Jews tell Jewish jokes. There's a difference between poking fun at yourself and being made fun of by someone else.

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yeah.... your explanation really explains it all.
I wasn't attempting a substantive reply to your question. Simply noting a flaw in the logic.
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Symbolic speech such as wearing armbands is protected. The right to freedom of association protects demonstrations, as well as individual speech. Music, art, and theater are fully protected. And speech cannot be censored on the basis that it is "hate speech" or that some find it offensive. Nor can it be censored based on the speaker's viewpoint -- whether it is anti-war, pro-workers' rights, or what have you. Content discrimination, however, is permissible if a court finds that there is a compelling state interest, the restriction is narrowly drawn, and there are still alternative channels for communication. But this strict scrutiny test is very hard for speech-suppressing laws to pass. (Sometimes viewpoint discrimination can also become, in effect, content discrimination; either way, it is unconstitutional.)

Public forums (such as campus lawns and squares) must not only be equally available to all speakers, but are only subject to obscenity and incitement to violence limitations. Non-public forums may impose limitations on speech, but they must be reasonable in light of the purpose the forum serves.
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