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Old 04-27-2007, 06:27 AM
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Default Will democrats nominate another war monger

(Correct me if I’m wrong)
All 8 democratic candidates say they are against Bush and Iraq war

Dennis Kucinich: voted against the war, votes against funding the war.
Mike Gravel: voted against the war, votes against funding the war.
Borak Obama: wasn’t there to vote for the war, but keeps voting to fund the war, speaks against the war.
Hillary Clinton: voted for the war continues to vote to fund the war, speaks against the war.
Joseph Bidden: voted for the war continues to vote to fund the war, speaks against the war.

QUESTION: who decided last night in the debates that Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel would get much less questions directed at them then top 3 hypocrites Obama, Clinton and Biden?
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Old 04-27-2007, 07:11 AM
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Sorry I didn't know who made the decision. It sure wasn't me.
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Old 04-27-2007, 07:40 AM
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Default US involvement in Yugoslavia.

Republicans - 24
AZ-01 Salmon
CA-15 Campbell *
CA-45 Rohrabacher *
CO-04 Schaffer *
GA-07 Barr *
IA-04 Ganske *
IL-16 Manzullo *
IN-04 Souder

MN-01 Gutknecht
MO-09 Hulshof
NC-06 Coble
NC-09 Myrick
OH-01 Chabot
OK-01 Largent
SC-01 Sanford *
TN-02 Duncan *

TX-03 Johnson, Sam
TX-05 Sessions
TX-07 Archer
TX-14 Paul *
UT-02 Cook
WA-02 Metcalf *
WI-06 Petri *
WI-09 Sensenbrenner *

Democrats - 4
GA-04 McKinney
MN-07 Peterson, C.
MO-06 Danner *
VA-05 Goode
* These are among the 31 Members of Congress who filed a lawsuit against President Clinton on April 30, 1999 seeking a declaratory judgment that the war in Yugoslavia is unconstitutional.

Other Members who have joined the lawsuit are listed below:

Republicans - 15
AL-02 Everett
CA-04 Doolittle
CO-06 Tancredo
FL-01 Scarborough
GA-10 Norwood

IL-08 Crane
IN-06 Burton
LA-05 Cooksey
LA-06 Baker
MD-06 Bartlett

MT-01 Hill, Rick
NC-03 Jones
PA-07 Weldon, Curt
TN-04 Hilleary
UT-03 Cannon

Republicans did much the same about US involvement in Yugoslavia.
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There are probably a few Democrats that actually believe in ending the war. I think they're for the most part trying to simeltaneously cater to anti-war sentiments in the public and force compromise on the Republicans. Ultimately something more like the "benchmark" idea will be Democrat policy rather than "phased withdrawals", but what they will do is confirm that the planning thus far has been terrible.
Ultimately even if a truly "cut n' run" Crat gets elected, he/she will be faced with the reality of the situation and the Democrats will essentially have bought the war. You can count on it that the Crats will not leave Iraq so lightly at that point.
The fact of the matter is that, while all the scare tactics about al Queda bases are mostly hype and of little real consequence (the base will be destroyed in the chaos soon after we leave), it is not in any way beneficial for us to leave Iraq to become a failed state (which it would be if we were not doing the "power" job for the Iraqi government)... and to simply pressure Iraq to take control itself is as futile as calling up Musharif in Pakistan and asking "Hey, why haven't you taken control of your country yet?" It's not possible without the power.
Frankly I don't think it matters which party takes office so long as the current administration leaves and the next president promises a more pragmatic approach (less secrecy would be nice too).

If you want a "leave now" president, you'll be sadly disappointed because it is not going to happen.
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Default hey Folks

Once again, I disagree with you Java. I believe if a Democrat gets elected which doesn't seem likely, the next President will clear us out of the middle east just like Clinton did. They will not end the war because in order to end a war, both sides must agree to end it. War does not end unless forced to by a larger power or one side wins. Since neither has happened, the us is still at war, just ignoring it.
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McCain: wants to invade Iran, but wants to cut spending says it's out of control.... hmmmmmmmmm
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Default So it's not just the evil Demoncrats who oppose wars ?

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Originally Posted by ashleykennedy";p=&quot View Post
Republicans - 24
AZ-01 Salmon
CA-15 Campbell *
CA-45 Rohrabacher *
CO-04 Schaffer *
GA-07 Barr *
IA-04 Ganske *
IL-16 Manzullo *
IN-04 Souder

MN-01 Gutknecht
MO-09 Hulshof
NC-06 Coble
NC-09 Myrick
OH-01 Chabot
OK-01 Largent
SC-01 Sanford *
TN-02 Duncan *

TX-03 Johnson, Sam
TX-05 Sessions
TX-07 Archer
TX-14 Paul *
UT-02 Cook
WA-02 Metcalf *
WI-06 Petri *
WI-09 Sensenbrenner *

Democrats - 4
GA-04 McKinney
MN-07 Peterson, C.
MO-06 Danner *
VA-05 Goode
* These are among the 31 Members of Congress who filed a lawsuit against President Clinton on April 30, 1999 seeking a declaratory judgment that the war in Yugoslavia is unconstitutional.

Other Members who have joined the lawsuit are listed below:

Republicans - 15
AL-02 Everett
CA-04 Doolittle
CO-06 Tancredo
FL-01 Scarborough
GA-10 Norwood

IL-08 Crane
IN-06 Burton
LA-05 Cooksey
LA-06 Baker
MD-06 Bartlett

MT-01 Hill, Rick
NC-03 Jones
PA-07 Weldon, Curt
TN-04 Hilleary
UT-03 Cannon

Republicans did much the same about US involvement in Yugoslavia.
THAT IS VERY INTERESTING ASHLEY ! So it's not just the evil Demoncrats who oppose wars ? Wow! The liberal media makes it appear that only Demoncrats are evil enough to betray their country and vote against a war.

I am taken aback !!
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I'm not sure what's confusing about dems opposing the war but still voting to fund it. Democrats want the war over. Because there isn't a reason to be there. But mostly because they want the troops to come home safely. I'll just make a list of points.

1) The president took us to war under false pretenses.
2) so a lot of Dems believed his lies
3) They now realize that the war is bad so they are speaking out against it.
4) We continue to vote to fund the war because we support the troops just not the war, and if you don't understand how that works then you're dumb.

Opposing the war and opposing the troops are two totally different things. We love the troops so much that we want to see them come home and stop dying.
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I'm not sure what's confusing about dems opposing the war but still voting to fund it. Democrats want the war over. Because there isn't a reason to be there. But mostly because they want the troops to come home safely. I'll just make a list of points.

1) The president took us to war under false pretenses.
2) so a lot of Dems believed his lies
3) They now realize that the war is bad so they are speaking out against it.
4) We continue to vote to fund the war because we support the troops just not the war, and if you don't understand how that works then you're dumb.

Opposing the war and opposing the troops are two totally different things. We love the troops so much that we want to see them come home and stop dying.
your dumb nah im just jokin with ya but im curious how you respond to quote from Dennis Kucinich You can’t keep saying you’re a peace candidate and keep voting to fund the war” and ron paul we dont need any more funding to bring the troops home the last quote was paraphrased because i dont remember what interview he said it in also thank you bushndick i copied and pasted from your sig
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