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Old 04-28-2007, 04:25 PM
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There are some here that believe that the cops never break the law and are always justified in what they do. A couple of people come to mind, but I won't say their names they already know who they are.

DEADLY DECEPTION: Two Atlanta cops plead guilty in woman's death, blame pressure from police brass.

http://www.ajc.com/search/content/me...ton0427a.html?

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http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?se...ews&id=5136109 also a cop near cincinnati got charged with rape not to long ago. none of it really a surprise though cops are just humans that are given a little extra power and the position tends to attract a few as**oles its sad but the majority are decent cats
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There are some here that believe that the cops never break the law and are always justified in what they do. A couple of people come to mind, but I won't say their names they already know who they are.

DEADLY DECEPTION: Two Atlanta cops plead guilty in woman's death, blame pressure from police brass.

http://www.ajc.com/search/content/me...ton0427a.html?

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I have never heard anyone say that. Can you provide quotes? Thank you.
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Cops are just as human as the rest of us. There are also a lot of dirty cops who are on the payroll of criminals. If "cops never break the law and are always justified in what they do", then I'll become a cop right now.
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There are some here that believe that the cops never break the law and are always justified in what they do. A couple of people come to mind, but I won't say their names they already know who they are.

DEADLY DECEPTION: Two Atlanta cops plead guilty in woman's death, blame pressure from police brass.

http://www.ajc.com/search/content/me...ton0427a.html?

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I'd be interested in seeing quotes on whomever made that argument. Coming from law enforcement I can quickly debunk that claim. If it was ever made.
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Just go back and read the thread on Police Shootings you will find more than enough info.

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I just did, I didn't see anyone make the claim that the police never break the law.
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I just did, I didn't see anyone make the claim that the police never break the law.
You have to be a mindreader to see it.

"They would be guilty of murder" = "they can do no wrong and it's justified."

It's really very easy when you ignore the actual words.
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I knew it was a strawman, just wanted to see the actual quotes that formed the straw. Thanks!
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Here is just a few tidbits of the day.

You're willing to give the benefit of the doubt to a black Congressman. Are you willing to give black cops the same benefit?
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The cop said that he clearly identified himself. Logic leads me to believe him until I have more evidence. Isn't it possible that this is why the fourth man ran away?

Depends on the informant. If it's someone they use regularly and has a long history of being truthful and correct then that alone could be reason enough. And you don't know that they didn't have any other info or intel.

50 shots is not odd, not with several officers involved. Have you ever fired a hand gun? Do you know how long it takes to empty a clip? I'm assuming they were 9mm, I could empty one in less than 5 seconds. Do you consider 5 seconds a lot of time? I find it unusual that he emptied two clips, but I wasn't there. Either were you. Either were any of the others like Jesse and Al who are jumping to conclusions.

I say there is not enough evidence to judge for sure either way. But I know in the case of NY I'll rely on the word of the cops before the word of someone who was overheard saying he was getting a gun to F someone up.

I believe it would be illogical for the cop not to identify himself.

No actually I don't act like it couldn't happen. I said, "Logic leads me to believe him until I have more evidence." What other cops have done in the past has no bearing on this case. Has this cop ever approached someone in a similar case without identifying himself? Has this cop ever shot people before he identified himself?

Glad to know you're so fair-minded. In the case of one man's word against another's, one is required to take the word of the defendant. Let's say it's two black men, one has a rap sheet, the other is a cop who has never fired his weapon on the job (12 years) until now. Nevermind. I know who you'd believe.

Doesn't surprise me either...someone in the black community is shot and the auto assumption is the cops are all racist murderers and the "victims" are boy scouts who were just selling cookies door to door when viciously attacked.

I probably could go at this all day. The attitude is simple every black man is guilty until proven innocent which the system is suppose to work just the opposite.

Now in the ATL case a 92 yr old black woman is murdered by 3 undercover cops in which they tried to cover it up, but they were not able to because of the outcry from the public inwhich a thorough investigation got to the truth. Now had this been a 20 or 30 yr old woman this probably would have been swept under the rug.

Now lets wait and see what happens in NYC were 5 officers have been indicted.

There are a few on here that think these were thugs and got what they deserved I am waiting for the trial to start to see if we can get to the bottom of this case also.

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