Thread: Ron Paul's racist ties - has he done enough to separate himself?

Originally Posted by thebrucebeat

To suggest that the issue will ultimately be irrelevant. Paul will only be a factor if he runs independent and helps to split the Republican vote and re-elects the president.
In the Republican primary, he is irrelevant, so the "alleged" racist ties will be unnecessary.
Does that sit better with you?

Ron Paul has to jump two others to win the GOP nomination but that does not seem impossible to me.

He still has time and he has a message that is appealing.

Originally Posted by Calminian

Instead of deflecting the issue, why not have the guts to address it?

Defend what issue? Oh wait, the same bull(*)(*)(*)(*) that gets brought up every election but never sticks to him?

You're simply respewing the same garbage most likely coming from GOP operatives.

Good job parrot.

Originally Posted by Roelath

You mean the ones that were addressed multiple time during the 08 Presidential Elections? Sorry that bit ended years ago and he himself denied ever being part of it nor does his message that he has voted/spoke of support that conclusion that he is racist.

wrong, ron paul's racist newsletters won't go away no matter how much he lies about them


"When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name.
I'm sorry, but no. This simply doesn't wash. I don't doubt for a moment that Paul doesn't sincerely regret the contents of over 15 years of assorted newsletters that went out under his name (he published several different ones) -- and presumably, under his ownership and for his own profit as well.

But even the most abject apology doesn't address the larger question, which is: How do people expect a man who can't exercise basic oversight for a lousy monthly newsletter to take full responsibility for the entirety of the government of the most powerful nation on earth?

Since libertarians are supposed to be all about running the government by the standards of private business, let me clue you in on how this kind of lackadaisical failure-to-pay-attention goes down in the private sector.

If somebody goes into court to get out of a contract because "My lawyer wrote it for me, and I didn't really read it, even though I did sign my name to it," the judge will rightly laugh them right out of the courtroom -- and probably award the plaintiff extra damages just for the stupidity factor.

A corporate manager who claims, "Oh, some underling of mine let that defective product out onto the market -- I wasn't really watching, so I had nothing to do with it" is still going to be out of a job so fast he'll have asphalt marks on the butt of his Brooks Brothers suit.

Originally Posted by dujac

wrong, ron paul's racist newsletters won't go away no matter how much he lies about them


"When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name.
I'm sorry, but no. This simply doesn't wash. I don't doubt for a moment that Paul doesn't sincerely regret the contents of over 15 years of assorted newsletters that went out under his name (he published several different ones) -- and presumably, under his ownership and for his own profit as well.

But even the most abject apology doesn't address the larger question, which is: How do people expect a man who can't exercise basic oversight for a lousy monthly newsletter to take full responsibility for the entirety of the government of the most powerful nation on earth?

Since libertarians are supposed to be all about running the government by the standards of private business, let me clue you in on how this kind of lackadaisical failure-to-pay-attention goes down in the private sector.

If somebody goes into court to get out of a contract because "My lawyer wrote it for me, and I didn't really read it, even though I did sign my name to it," the judge will rightly laugh them right out of the courtroom -- and probably award the plaintiff extra damages just for the stupidity factor.

A corporate manager who claims, "Oh, some underling of mine let that defective product out onto the market -- I wasn't really watching, so I had nothing to do with it" is still going to be out of a job so fast he'll have asphalt marks on the butt of his Brooks Brothers suit.

What would you say if I told you Obama once belonged to a racist organization that does not admit white people?

So by your logic, we can hold president Obama accountable for the views of every kook that supports him as well, right? People like you are the reason politics in this country are so stupid and dirty.

Originally Posted by dujac

wrong, ron paul's racist newsletters won't go away no matter how much he lies about them


"When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name.
I'm sorry, but no. This simply doesn't wash. I don't doubt for a moment that Paul doesn't sincerely regret the contents of over 15 years of assorted newsletters that went out under his name (he published several different ones) -- and presumably, under his ownership and for his own profit as well.

But even the most abject apology doesn't address the larger question, which is: How do people expect a man who can't exercise basic oversight for a lousy monthly newsletter to take full responsibility for the entirety of the government of the most powerful nation on earth?

Since libertarians are supposed to be all about running the government by the standards of private business, let me clue you in on how this kind of lackadaisical failure-to-pay-attention goes down in the private sector.

If somebody goes into court to get out of a contract because "My lawyer wrote it for me, and I didn't really read it, even though I did sign my name to it," the judge will rightly laugh them right out of the courtroom -- and probably award the plaintiff extra damages just for the stupidity factor.

A corporate manager who claims, "Oh, some underling of mine let that defective product out onto the market -- I wasn't really watching, so I had nothing to do with it" is still going to be out of a job so fast he'll have asphalt marks on the butt of his Brooks Brothers suit.

Originally Posted by Bluespade

So by your logic, we can hold president Obama accountable for the views of every kook that supports him as well, right?

i've shown ron paul's racist newsletters, now show me obama's racist newsletters

Originally Posted by Bluespade

So by your logic, we can hold president Obama accountable for the views of every kook that supports him as well, right? People like you are the reason politics in this country are so stupid and dirty.

So you agree that the Ayers and Rev. Wright stuff is silly?
Good.

Originally Posted by dujac

show me obama's racist newsletters

What would you say if I told you Obama once belonged to a racist organization that does not admit white people?

Originally Posted by Mac-7

What would you say if I told you Obama once belonged to a racist organization that does not admit white people?

We'll find out when you say it and provide the corroboration.

Originally Posted by thebrucebeat

So you agree that the Ayers and Rev. Wright stuff is silly?
Good.

I think that every American who approves of leftist domestic terrorists bombing the Pentagon and wacko black preachers who hate white America should vote for Obama.

Don't you?