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"In a new video posted today on the Internet, al Qaeda's number two man, Ayman al Zawahiri, mocks the bill passed by Congress setting a timetable for the pullout of U.S. troops in Iraq.

"This bill will deprive us of the opportunity to destroy the American forces which we have caught in a historic trap," Zawahiri says in answer to a question posed to him an interviewer.

Continuing in the same tone, Zawahiri says, "We ask Allah that they only get out of it after losing 200,000 to 300,000 killed, in order that we give the spillers of blood in Washington and Europe an unforgettable lesson."

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What Zawahiri doesn't seem to understand is that according to our Dems here......al Qaeda didn't draw us into anything in Iraq; considering they weren't there to start with. Our Dems tell us it's "only a civil war."
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What Zawahiri doesn't seem to understand is that according to our Dems here......al Qaeda didn't draw us into anything in Iraq; considering they weren't there to start with. Our Dems tell us it's "only a civil war."
He also doesn't seem to understand that in order for him to win he needs to co-operate more with the Left/Dems in their effort to make his organizationnon-existant
Otherwise the non-lying Americasn who said on 9/11 "We will fight you anywehre you are" will not allow the liars to betray us all.

He already has the Far Left and some Democrats on his side he nees to take advatage of it. Capitalize on it by continuing ot murdr civilias en masse but allow his friedns to lay the blame on a "civil war"(that even the Iraqis deny exists)
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He already has the Far Left and some Democrats on his side he nees to take advatage of it. Capitalize on it by continuing ot murdr civilias en masse but allow his friedns to lay the blame on a "civil war"(that even the Iraqis deny exists)

That would work, but al Qaeda wants real badly to get the credit then we leave not the "civil war"
so you see when it suits al Qaeda they then tell the truth.

Democrats better not let al Qaeda down, Or Ayman al Zawahiri will be highly disappointed.

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Pelosi actually said the other day that we need to leave Iraq so we can fight the real war on terrorism. Surely, she cannot be that dumb.
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You GOPers have the worst reading comprehension skills, it's a pathetic representation of the American educational system.

Geezuz, anyone who can comprehend what they read will comprehend Zawahiri 's statements to mean that he wants the U.S. troops to remain, so as to provide MORE opportunity to kill Americans. Indeed, he would like to see the lives taken of some 200-300,000 Americans BEFORE the U.S. pulls out.

This is the most abhorrent attempt at political spin ever.
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Yet you would pull out to avoid Zawahiri 's wish? have you ever thought that maybe
Zawahiri is using reverse psychology on you?

Pull out and Zawahiri will be snickering. LOL


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Look on the bright side after you betray the Iraqis and your own soldiers you can send them to Afghansitan and hopefully he can kill Alot there before you run out on them as well.
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You GOPers have the worst reading comprehension skills, it's a pathetic representation of the American educational system.

Geezuz, anyone who can comprehend what they read will comprehend Zawahiri 's statements to mean that he wants the U.S. troops to remain, so as to provide MORE opportunity to kill Americans. Indeed, he would like to see the lives taken of some 200-300,000 Americans BEFORE the U.S. pulls out.

This is the most abhorrent attempt at political spin ever.
PRESS TV, Iran - "Al-Zawahiri mocks US Iraq bill"
ABC news (JP5's link) - "Ayman al Zawahiri, mocks the bill passed by Congress setting a timetable for the pullout of U.S. troops in Iraq."
AFP - "Zawahiri mocks US Congress Iraq bill"
Reuters - "Zawahiri mocks US congress Iraq bill"

Buncha ignorant GOPers.
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I was kinda hping for more comments from the lyign anti-war crowd here but its a weekend....SO I wil destroy what has been tried with facts.

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Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri, the number two figure in al-Qaeda, is featured in a video interview produced by as-Sahab, marking the third such sit-down interview to be conducted with the multimedia wing of al-Qaeda. The first was issued in September 2005, and was followed a year later by the second, which is titled, “Hot Issues”. The video, one-hour and seven minutes in length, is subtitled in English, and features Zawahiri sitting in front of a shelves of books and his gun. The video and transcript were obtained by the SITE Institute. In this interview, dated in the current month, Zawahiri remarks on the row he created in his last speech, charging the leaders of Hamas with abandoning jihad and shirking the Shari’a, or Islamic law, on which their group was founded, using his usual fiery rhetoric and strict adherence to the belief that a Palestinian entity is greater than the lives of Palestinians. However, most interesting to note is Zawahiri’s frequent references to Malcolm X AKA Al-Hajj Malik al-Shabazz, a past spokesman for the Nation of Islam, Sahab’s inclusion of excerpts from his speeches, and Zawahiri courting of all minorities in arguing that the jihad by the Mujahideen and al-Qaeda is not merely for the benefit of Muslims. He states:


“That’s why I want blacks in America, people of color, American Indians, Hispanics, and all the weak and oppressed in North and South America, in Africa and Asia, and all over the world, to know that when we wage Jihad in Allah’s path, we aren’t waging Jihad to lift oppression from the Muslims only, we are waging Jihad to lift oppression from all of mankind, because Allah has ordered us never to accept oppression, whatever it may be.”


Aside from Zawahiri’s opportunistic approach to minority rights, he comments on the current issue over the War in Iraq vis-à-vis the U.S. Congress and U.S. President George W. Bush. Speaking to the bill tying funding for the war to a timetable to withdrawal, Zawahiri comments that this is evidence of American “failure and frustration”, and sarcastically voices his disappointment that the bill deprives the Mujahideen of crushing the U.S. forces. Concerning Bush claiming success in the Baghdad security plan, Zawahiri continues to mock U.S. policy, referring to the suicide bombing at the Iraqi Parliament building in the Green Zone, stating: “And lest Bush worry, I congratulate him on the success of his security plan, and I invite him on the occasion for a glass of juice, but in the cafeteria of the Iraqi parliament in the middle of the Green Zone!”


To the issue of Hamas, which was embellished upon by Abu Yahya al-Libi in his speech issue one week prior by as-Sahab, Zawahiri further derides the government for its refusal to maintain a militaristic approach and believing it harmful to Palestinian lives. Zawahiri questions the relationship between Palestinian blood and “selling” Palestine to Israel and the West, arguing that their blood must be “sacrificed cheaply” for Islam and the land of Palestine. As for Hamas’ moderate position, he states: “fie on moderation, politics, the presidency and the cabinet, and I thank Allah for the bounty of extremism, militancy and terrorism and everything else we are labeled with.”


To the question of sectarian fighting in Iraq, Zawahiri believes this was stirred up not by the Mujahideen or the Islamic State of Iraq, but by those individuals and groups in Iraq who do not want the coalition forces to leave. The Mujahideen in Iraq, he claims, are nearing closer to victory over their enemy, despite this sectarian fighting, as are the Mujahideen in other fields of battle, including Afghanistan, Chechnya, Algeria, and Somalia. Other portions of the interview concern Saudi Arabia, Egyptian constitutional reform to consolidate power in the executive branch and allow Gamal Mubarak to ascend to power, and Zawahiri’s opinion of the U.S. Pentagon releasing the confessions of 9/11 mastermind, Khalid Sheikh Muhammad
http://siteinstitute.org/bin/article...&Subcategory=0


Thanks to the constant Seditious acts of Far Left types here and elsewhere and thanks to the same from Democrats al Qaeda believes it is winnng in Iraq and that they arweon the verge of defeatign the USA there.








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You GOPers have the worst reading comprehension skills, it's a pathetic representation of the American educational system.

Geezuz, anyone who can comprehend what they read will comprehend Zawahiri 's statements to mean that he wants the U.S. troops to remain, so as to provide MORE opportunity to kill Americans. Indeed, he would like to see the lives taken of some 200-300,000 Americans BEFORE the U.S. pulls out.

This is the most abhorrent attempt at political spin ever.

To the question of sectarian fighting in Iraq, Zawahiri believes this was stirred up not by the Mujahideen or the Islamic State of Iraq, but by those individuals and groups in Iraq who do not want the coalition forces to leave. The Mujahideen in Iraq, he claims, are nearing closer to victory over their enemy, despite this sectarian fighting, as are the Mujahideen in other fields of battle, including Afghanistan, Chechnya, Algeria, and Somalia.


Funny he said in the thing we supposedly can't comprehend the exact opposite of what you contnd he said..
Talk about spinning to get away from the fact that your goals are his and al Qaedas in Iraq.

THAT is-"the most abhorrent attempt at political spin ever."
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Default Propaganda

Anyone who would take seriously the analysis proffered either by Zawahiri or the current occupant of the White House is in serious need of a course in recognizing propaganda.

Bush and Zawahiri share a common objective: to demonstrate their respective key roles in determining the outcome of struggles that neither can actually control. It is to Al Qaeda's advantage to maintain that the conflicts in Iraq result from its actions. It is to Bush's advantage to make the same claim. Each is playing to his "base."

Slogans and propaganda will not determine what happens in Iraq.
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