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Old 05-14-2007, 12:07 AM
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I'd love to actually see a link to Teds accusation ..since its more then likey his (TEDS for the slow here) comments are taking O'Rielly out of context or simply intentionally distorting what he actually said.

FOX has had some instances of words spelled wrong or a D instead of R for Foley..but CNN has had a few instances where the "mistake" is way out there..such as this one. Or the oen not long ago with the mysterious X flashing over Cheney. Not surprising though since my bet is CNN has a large number of interns/or the equivlant who are leftist types and they often think this HS level crap humor is cute.

Really, Duh? You don't consider Foxnews falsely accusing American soldiers of cold blooded murder to be "way out there". Really, Duh? Maybe to neocon partisan hacks whose loyalty is to Foxnews and your political party it isn't "way out there".



FoxNews' Bill'O accused US GIs of mass murder not just once, not just twice, but THREE times.. and never apologized after they were exposed.

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During a discussion with former NATO supreme commander Wesley Clark on the May 30 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor, O'Reilly attempted to compare the incident at Malmédy to the alleged killing of 24 Iraqi civilians by U.S. soldiers in Haditha, Iraq. O'Reilly stated: "In Malmédy, as you know, U.S. forces captured SS forces who had their hands in the air and they were unarmed and they shot them down. You know that. That's on the record. Been documented."

In fact, the result of the massacre was reversed -- 84 American bodies were found at Malmédy, murdered by SS troops. O'Reilly had made the mistake before, during an October 3, 2005, interview with Clark. Olbermann called attention to O'Reilly's falsehoods, saying, "the victims at Malmédy in December 1944 were Americans, Americans with their hands in the air, Americans who were unarmed."
http://mediamatters.org/items/200606030002

Heres the kicker.. FoxNews then edited the transcripts of the Bill'O show to "Normany" instead of "Malmédy", further accusing American soldiers of murdering POWs during the early phases of D-Day. Wrong again. It was British and Canadian POWs that were murdered by the Germans.

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Both Fox News and Nexis posted transcripts of O'Reilly's May 30 comments that read "Normandy," instead of "Malmédy." However, the video of O'Reilly's remarks, as well as the transcript provided by Factiva.com, confirm that O'Reilly indeed said "Malmédy," not "Normandy."

But even the change did not make O'Reilly's statement accurate. There is in fact evidence of a massacre of British and Canadian soldiers at the hands of SS troops at Normandy; the invasion of Normandy was not an example of a U.S.-initiated massacre.

The only thing funny about this whole episode was Bill'O thinking he knows military history better than General Clark whole graduated 1st in his WestPoint class, a General who was NATO Supreme Commander, a General who won a war. Meanwhile, back in FoxNews studios in NYC, Bill'O's been harrassing his employee about his desires to loofa her in the shower.


As you can see, Duh... perhaps it's time you become more loyal towards your country rather than some TV show.
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AH so he made a mistake and didn't aplogize..ok....hmm.

I think its also fair to note that after Malmedy it became a rather routine practice of US forces(aka Americans) NOT to take SS soldiers prisoner but instead shoot them as they tried to surrender. Maybe he simply mixed the two facts up..dunno.

Oh wait...TADA..that is what he meant.

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O'REILLY [video clip]: Don Caldwell, Fort Worth, Texas: "Bill, you mentioned that Malmédy as the site of an American massacre during World War II. It was the other way around, the SS shot down U.S. prisoners." In the heat of the debate with General Clark, my statement wasn't clear enough, Mr. Caldwell. After Malmédy, some German captives were executed by American troops.
Just because that is not good enough for Olbermann doesn't amount to a pile of dog crap in Mississippi.


Let me repost that in bold becasue I know how your eyes skip things....

O'REILLY [video clip]: Don Caldwell, Fort Worth, Texas: "Bill, you mentioned that Malmédy as the site of an American massacre during World War II. It was the other way around, the SS shot down U.S. prisoners." In the heat of the debate with General Clark, my statement wasn't clear enough, Mr. Caldwell. After Malmédy, some German captives were executed by American troops



As for your Wesley Clark thing-
West Point teaches alot of things besides simply history. Going to West Point does not make you the authorative word on the history of warfare or the events there in....and Clark If he knows his stuff would agree with O'Rielly....

Here the kicker the transcript bit has been corrected and O'Rielly is not responsible for that error in anyway.




As you can see Ted...perhaps its time you stopped being a dip.
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StayDuhCourse, Duh. Still trying to defend someone that was proven wrong. FoxNews then edits the transcripts of what was actually said and you also defend that. What are you.. a FoxNews employee?

Duh, perhaps its time you stop kissing your boss's ass.
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why the Michael Moores of the world aren't dangerous. I say line them all up against a brick wall and give them a cigarette. wait, don't give them a cigarette...waist of time.
Do away with Habeas corpus, do away with freedom of speech do away with all those inconvenient things like evidence, trials and justice. Hitler did that with Dachua, the US has gone fascist.
The british detained 27,000 aliens in WWII and were unimpeded by british judges. So they were fascists? You are ignorant of history, and don't grasp that in wartime extraordinary measures are needed.
Fascism has little to do with prisoners, or detainees.
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IOW Ted you didn't read your own link and distorted the course of events in order to fit your agenda.

Now stuoid what did O'Rielly refer to ..what did he mean?
The answer is in your link..IF you are unaware of what he is referring to then I suggest you stop jerking off for 5 minutes and find out.
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Do away with Habeas corpus, do away with freedom of speech do away with all those inconvenient things like evidence, trials and justice. Hitler did that with Dachua, the US has gone fascist.
The British detained 27,000 aliens in WWII and were unimpeded by british judges. So they were fascists? You are ignorant of history, and don't grasp that in wartime extraordinary measures are needed.
Fascism has little to do with prisoners, or detainees.
http://www.answers.com/topic/fascism
During the Second World War, just under two thousand British citizens were detained without charge, trial, or term set, under Regulation 18B of the wartime Defence Regulations. Most of these detentions took place in the summer of 1940, soon after Winston Churchill became Prime Minister, when belief in the existence of a dangerous Fifth Column was widespread. Churchill, at first an enthusiast for vigorous use of the powers of executive detention, later came to lament the use of a power which was, in his words, `in the highest degree odious'.

This book provides the first comprehensive study of Regulation 18B and its precursor in the First World War, Regulation 14B. Based on extensive use of primary sources, it describes the complex history of wartime executive detention: the purposes which it served, the administrative procedures and safeguards employed, the conflicts between the Home Office and the Security Service which surrounded its use, the part played by individuals, by Parliament, and by the courts in restraining abuse of executive power, and the effect of detention upon the lives of individuals concerned, very few of whom constituted any threat to national security. Much of what was done was kept secret at the time, and even today the authorities continue to refuse access to many of the papers which have escaped deliberate destruction. This study is the first to attempt to penetrate the veil of secrecy and tell the story of the gravest invasion of civil liberty which has occurred in Britain this century.

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In total in Britain about 8,000 people were interned. Where did you get 27,000

A brief history of habeas corpus
Habeas corpus is under attack, say critics of the government's anti-terror bill. But what is it and why is it so cherished?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4329839.stm

Internment was last used in 1971 but the right of Habeas Corpus was still applicable. The worst was in Kenya during the Mau-Mau rebellion where it has been said that 1.5 million (the Kikuyu tribe) were interned. Yes fear does do nasty things to civilisations. And yes I would say it was fascist.

Which is why I see the creeping fascism and dislike it, the 1984 Police and criminal evidence act was an attack on civil liberties.
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