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Why is there not an outcry? It's simple. Most Americans expect this of Al-Qaeda. Unlike those who have degraded American principles by embracing torture, abandoning due process and so forth, we expect far more of America morally than we do of Al-Qaeda. Apparently we think more of America than oh-so-patriotic neocons do.
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Stop the Presses!!! Al Qaeda advocates terror and torture? My God! I didn't know that. If I express my outrage now, do I have to repeat it daily to avoid being accused of not recognizing it?

What silliness.
No, hold on a second. You appeasers had world-wide hysterical howling demonstrations because Bush (gasp! Oh the horror! wahhhh!) invaded the most murderous dictatorship on the planet, and now not a peep out of you about al qaeda, because, duhhhhhhh, wellll, everyone knows they're terrorists, what's to get upset about??? The mind-f___ing hypocrisy of appeasers this reveals shows you don't really give a rat's ass about human suffering, you just want to get Bush, it's all just politics.
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Some of you can't see the forest through the trees, here...

The point here isn't about comparing Al Qaida to that lightweight crap we were doing at Abu Ghirab.

The point here is that there exists an organization. This organization uses terror, murder and torture to get it's way. This is the ONLY way this organization works. Knowing this, why do our current crop of "leaders," Commucrat and Demopublican BOTH, refuse to call these jackholes out? Why?

Oh, the Commucrats cry bloody murder when WE play "dress up" with enemy combatatants (aka: people who shot at, and tried to kill us), but look people...here is an enemy that saws people's heads off with dull knives, and posts the video on the web, as if they accomplished something!

Where is the same outcry for this, that you had with Abu Ghirab??? Ok, fine...call it the same...but TREAT IT THE SAME! Jesus, what are they, afraid??? The last superpower on the face of the planet is afraid of these vermin with bully tactics? For shame!

And look at some of the responses here!

One guy just accepts it. "Oh well," he says, "that's just what they do." As if it's a common occurrence, and nothing to be too concerned about. It's just a few heads, right? Nice apathetical view you have there.

Then there are the sheep that can't let a topic go, without slamming George Bush. I could start a thread about why wild huckleberries grow in mountains, and not in the desert, and these people would find a way to insert a George Bush slam into the conversation.

Then you've got the Al Qaida sympathizers who keep falling back on Abu Ghirab. WEAK. We're not sawing heads off. We're not gouging eyes out. What we did to our prisoners, the terrorists do for recreation. But you know...anything to bash the current administration.

It's obvious that we've got folks who want to hunt down and wipe out these butchers. But, it's also obvious that we've got folks who would rather just cry in their milk, close their eyes, and hope that the monsters never come out of the closet. I just wanna know why there's so much apathy towards the enemy. Why the sympathy towards them? Why the appeasement?
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Why is there not an outcry? It's simple. Most Americans expect this of Al-Qaeda. Unlike those who have degraded American principles by embracing torture, abandoning due process and so forth, we expect far more of America morally than we do of Al-Qaeda. Apparently we think more of America than oh-so-patriotic neocons do.
Point is----some are awfully quick to believe the worst about thier own country....the U.S. While I believe some bad things happened----I also believe it was individuals and certainly not government sactioned. And many who have done things wrong have been brought up on charges and sentenced. Many are in prison today for what they did.

On the other hand---al Qaeda is an organization that promotes and condones the killing of innocent civilians---and that condones the torture of women and children.....including chopping off heads while someone is alive.
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Why is there not an outcry? It's simple. Most Americans expect this of Al-Qaeda. Unlike those who have degraded American principles by embracing torture, abandoning due process and so forth, we expect far more of America morally than we do of Al-Qaeda. Apparently we think more of America than oh-so-patriotic neocons do.
So "expecting" it, is synonymous to "allowing" it, right? It's not ok when WE do it, but Al Qaida can feel free to saw away at folks' heads, because...well...that's just "what they do," right?

Would it still be "acceptable" if a Commucrat were in the White House?
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quote]So "expecting" it, is synonymous to "allowing" it, right? It's not ok when WE do it, but Al Qaida can feel free to saw away at folks' heads, because...well...that's just "what they do," right?

[/quote] i don't believe anyone is allowing this to happen except those that commit these acts. the u.s. military is trying to prevents these things. this report is nothing new to americans and the reason we seem to be so unresponsive to these horrible atrocities is cause if we got upset about every report like this we would go (Edited for language) mad. so think of it as an emotional defense mechanism
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I'm 99% sure this story is a disinformation operation. Which is probably why it's being covered only by Fox. How hard is it for the military to make up a story like that huh?

Also, i find it hard to believe terrorist would take the time to print books on how to torture. I mean, everyone knows the drill tricks or how to brake someone's finger etc.. And how convenient for the military to find this book? Reminds went the FBI found that passport intact on the rubble on 911, went nearly 1000 corps could not be found.

So it's sound to like one more attempt to demonize the Muslim. Again!
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Which is probably why it's being covered only by Fox.

huh well thats a plus.. FoxNewz finally admitting to bad things happening in Iraq instead of the 24/7 coverage they have of President Rosie O'Donnell, the dead stripper saga, the dead aruba chick mysteries, and ofcourse the CultureWar.
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Oh boy. Another member of the "Blame America First" crowd.
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Which is probably why it's being covered only by Fox.

huh well thats a plus.. FoxNewz finally admitting to bad things happening in Iraq instead of the 24/7 coverage they have of President Rosie O'Donnell, the dead stripper saga, the dead aruba chick mysteries, and ofcourse the CultureWar.
No argument from me on that one.
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