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    Quote Originally Posted by Ctrl View Post
    You can't win that debate. A kid is unbeatable. If you lay it down hard to have a clear victory, you are bullying a teenager. If you lose a single point, you got your ass handed to you by a kid.

    No way I would take that debate.
    Nah, she could have simply had a sense of humor about it and invited the girl to come up and ask her some questions about the Constitution. It would have been great publicity and it would have endeared Bachmann as a "good sport".

    (of course, that's assuming Bachmann would get the questions right. If she didn't, it would be utterly embarrassing. Which is probably why she didn't do it.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasein View Post
    Nah, she could have simply had a sense of humor about it and invited the girl to come up and ask her some questions about the Constitution. It would have been great publicity and it would have endeared Bachmann as a "good sport".

    (of course, that's assuming Bachmann would get the questions right. If she didn't, it would be utterly embarrassing. Which is probably why she didn't do it.)
    I don't think you would do very well in politics.

    Presume every news station in the country is an iteration of fox, and all you have left is MSNBC.

    No matter how it went, the press, and people like you, would murder the internet with upload attacks.

    Considering your willingness to twist things sometimes, I am surprised you don't get this.
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    He has already explained why and it has nothing to do with being afraid.

    He does not want to level science and religion right next to each other. He feels they should not be equated in a debate forum.

    At first I wondered why he would do that, because he usually destroys scientific debates, even religious ones. But his reasoning makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ctrl View Post

    Pssst. His career is a dog and pony show.

    He debates with evangelists. He debates with media talking heads with prepared questions. He does so for publicity. It sells books.

    What atheist WOULDN'T post a youtube of Dawkins owning the best they got...

    I would.
    You are being disingenuous, Richard Dawkings has participated in many forms of discussions. Just recently he was on one with regard to the teaching of religion in private schools in Britain. And it wasn't "media" heads, it was an open discussion with teachers, school representatives, students, and parents. And in this debate he had equal footing as everyone else because he was not the centerpiece of the discussion.

    You sound like you outright don't like the guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteZilla View Post
    You are being disingenuous, Richard Dawkings has participated in many forms of discussions. Just recently he was on one with regard to the teaching of religion in private schools in Britain. And it wasn't "media" heads, it was an open discussion with teachers, school representatives, students, and parents. And in this debate he had equal footing as everyone else because he was not the centerpiece of the discussion.

    You sound like you outright don't like the guy.
    I take it you didn't read the OP articles or watch the rebuke of the copout video posted on the first page.

    Every single one of the debate invitations came from Universities with multiple participants. Oxford atheists have called him a coward. The claims are coming from his esteemed colleagues, on HIS side of the debate.

    You don't get to just ignore this crap.

    He wont debate THIS guy... who is the best of the other side... and his
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    ...cause panties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteZilla View Post
    You sound like you outright don't like the guy.
    I have often quoted him. He is a brilliant guy. I am disappointed in his cowardice. His motivation should be truth. He is willing to whore it out to push a book, and he was willing to debate Kirk Cameron ffs. I guess you missed that.

    I don't dislike him, I expect more from him. Man up.

    "I'll debate a pope"

    Seriously.
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    I read that Zimmerman may change his name to Benghazi so the media will leave him alone.
    Quote Originally Posted by zbr6 View Post

    ...cause panties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ctrl View Post
    I take it you didn't read the OP articles or watch the rebuke of the copout video posted on the first page.

    Every single one of the debate invitations came from Universities with multiple participants. Oxford atheists have called him a coward. The claims are coming from his esteemed colleagues, on HIS side of the debate.

    You don't get to just ignore this crap.

    He wont debate THIS guy... who is the best of the other side... and his
    But a Creationist debating is NOT a scientific debate!

    It is a THEOLOGICAL debate based on the Creationist Authority, the Bible, NOT science!

    The man needs a Biblical scholar to debate him, not Dawkins!

    That Oxford atheist should go debate the Creationist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasein View Post
    I asked the same thing about this.

    http://jezebel.com/5801582/awesome-t...utional-debate
    Guess Bachmann was too scared to debate a teenager. Probably cost her the GOP nomination.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dasein View Post
    Nah, she could have simply had a sense of humor about it and invited the girl to come up and ask her some questions about the Constitution. It would have been great publicity and it would have endeared Bachmann as a "good sport".

    (of course, that's assuming Bachmann would get the questions right. If she didn't, it would be utterly embarrassing. Which is probably why she didn't do it.)
    So you're saying that both Bachmann and Dawkins were too scared to enter into their respective debates? That Dawkins is afraid of being utterly embarrassed and that is why he declines? Or is that just an effort to derail this thread?
    Last edited by tomfoo13ry; Sep 27 2011 at 06:07 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlerdave View Post
    But a Creationist debating is NOT a scientific debate!

    It is a THEOLOGICAL debate based on the Creationist Authority, the Bible, NOT science!

    The man needs a Biblical scholar to debate him, not Dawkins!

    That Oxford atheist should go debate the Creationist.
    Dawkins did not become famous for scientific debate. He exists in your world only because of his books on theology. Attempting to use science to disprove God.

    There is no better opponent. Are you suggesting he should only debate with people who agree with him?

    Utter nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mngam View Post
    I read that Zimmerman may change his name to Benghazi so the media will leave him alone.
    Quote Originally Posted by zbr6 View Post

    ...cause panties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlerdave View Post
    But a Creationist debating is NOT a scientific debate!

    It is a THEOLOGICAL debate based on the Creationist Authority, the Bible, NOT science!

    The man needs a Biblical scholar to debate him, not Dawkins!

    That Oxford atheist should go debate the Creationist.
    I hate to break it to you dave, but a debate concerning the existence/non-existence of super natural beings is necessarily a philosophical debate, not a scientific one.

    Metaphysics is not science, no matter how much people on either side of the debate try to treat it as such.
    I'm starting a gang. Its main points of business will be theft and forcing people to join us. Once we have enough members we will stop using the words "gang" and "theft" and replace them with "country" and "taxation," respectively.

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