Thread: U.S. Marines, Including Lesbian Couple, Discharged After Faking Marriages

Originally Posted by SiliconMagician

LOL

Well I'd say that the military sorta HAS to make arrangements for married men. It's not like they all are single and the military sorta has an obligation don't you think?

I don't think marriage should be even brought up in the military.

The military members are there to protect our nation and to kill our enemies, not to date and get married.

Originally Posted by Piscivorous

This has nothing to do with gay marriage. All four were defrauding the government. There is no indication that this woman would have married her girlfriend.

She was free to live off post with her girlfriend. The fact of the matter is that single people in the military have billets on post and unless those billets are completely filled [seldom the case], you are required to maintain a room/bunk on post. When billets fill to over capacity, service personnel are allowed to live off post and be afforded an off-post living allowance. It starts with the senior NCOs first and rolls down rank until the overcapacity is remedied.

These marines could maintain their billet and live off post. They must do it, however, out of pocket. Share an apartment with 2-3 others and it is doable. I did it on 3 separate occasions. Money is a bit tighter, but the freedom more than makes up for it.

When I was in the Corps, if you were an E-5 and below and wanted to live off bass, you needed permission to do so.

If you were married, you either lived on base with the housing the government provided or lived off base.

To say she was 'free' to live off base is not true at all.

And yes, this is about gay marriage....if the Federal Government would recognize gay marriage, the two lesbians would have been free to marry each other. You can try and say that there is no indication that the women would have married each other, but if they are willing to do contract marriages, then its safe to assume they would have married each other instead.

Originally Posted by Consmike

I don't think marriage should be even brought up in the military.

The military members are there to protect our nation and to kill our enemies, not to date and get married.

LOL we aren't robots, dude! Although service members sacrifice a few freedoms we don't sacrifice them all when we join and we are not out there constantly killing people we do, get to live at times trust me. When we are deployed in combat areas there is no marriage, but to think we just flip a switch to serve and protect mode for at least two years and do not enjoy the same things that all other Americans do is crazy.

This is not a gay marriage issue...

This is an issue of someone defrauding the US government, which, if you haven't heard, is illegal...

Fraud inspiring military marriage allowance.....During my almost nine years active, nothing...AND I MEAN NOTHING...pissed me off more than some freshly minted, freshly married E-3 being compensated more than an unmarried E-6 with six plus years active duty.

Gay or straight, ones OPTION to get married should never result in a GUARANTEED, substantial pay raise.

Originally Posted by Makedde

If a straight couple would have been entitled to benefits, then the lesbian couple should have been entitled to the same. Marriage affords people special rights, rights which are denied to same sex couples.
The women did commit fraud, and for that they should be punished. But if they were allowed to wed, this wouldn't have happened.

...I ask YET AGIAN, would you GAYMAFIOSOS be ok with civil unions that was 100% equal to marriage?...marriage has been defined as 1 man 1 woman, so it's something that is out of the question, but civil union isn't...



Kabuki Joe

Originally Posted by Really People?

This is not a gay marriage issue...

This is an issue of someone defrauding the US government, which, if you haven't heard, is illegal...

I completely agree.

Originally Posted by rstones199

When I was in the Corps, if you were an E-5 and below and wanted to live off bass, you needed permission to do so.

I was an E-5 and E-6, single and living on base because their was billeting for me. I chose to live off base which required me to maintain a billet, but was free to do so as long as I provided my superiors with contact information and pay for it out of pocket. One of my soldiers also lived off post and maintained a billet because that was her preference. If you weren't allowed to live off base on your own dime, sucks to be you. You could have taken it up the chain of command and been allowed to do so.

Originally Posted by rstones199

If you were married, you either lived on base with the housing the government provided or lived off base.

This hasn't changed for many years.

Originally Posted by rstones199

To say she was 'free' to live off base is not true at all.

Sucks to be her. She either didn't know her options or she had a hard-ass commander who trampled on her options.

Originally Posted by rstones199

And yes, this is about gay marriage....if the Federal Government would recognize gay marriage, the two lesbians would have been free to marry each other. You can try and say that there is no indication that the women would have married each other, but if they are willing to do contract marriages, then its safe to assume they would have married each other instead.

No this is about HuffPo and liberals like you framing another argument for gay marriage.

This woman knew she was joining the military. She knew they had a DADT policy which by its very distinction disallowed homosexuality and any possibility of gay marriage.

She wanted to live off post and would do anything, including marry a man, to live off post. Federal Law isn't and should never be in the business of marriage. And since the military is an extension of the Federal Government, they should not be either.

We called them "stripper marriages"....a business arrangement between a young military guy seeking more pay, and some seductive, random dancer looking for free health care and a few extra dollars to party with.

It was, and I'm sure still is, quite common.

Junior enlisted can usually move off base once they get to their permanent duty station,
they just won't get paid for it. To get a housing allowance you need to make rank first,
usually E-4 to E-5 qualifies for off-base housing allowances.