Originally Posted by Rebellion";p=&quot

Then how come you had convicted those cops in NY before the trial started?

Did I convict them or did I say they should be brought before the Bar of Justice?

Robert Blake is innocent according to the justice system. How come you continue to judge him?

Now I could be wrong but so wasn't OJ Simpson, but most of White America still persecutes him.

Right, not one shred, several shreds. Like eye witnesses (neighbors) who saw him coming and going all the time.

Coming and going? How many dogs did they witness him murder? How many dog fights did they attend? If they attended they are also in contempt of the law are they?

Dead bodies on his property. Witness statements on how dogs were killed.

Originally Posted by JP5";p=&quot

I defend our right to your opinion. I alo have every right to point out where I think that you or anyone else is wrong in my opinion. And I did just that!!

Originally Posted by superbadbrutha";p=&quot

Did I convict them or did I say they should be brought before the Bar of Justice?

Originally Posted by Rebellion";p=&quot

You argued that they were guilty of wrongly shooting them. No different than what is being done on this thread.

I argued that they were guilty of murdering him.

Because he was guilty, much like Blake. You said we should let justice take its course before making a decision. Well here are examples where you didn't let justice take its course and made conclusions.

Did I? Mr. Blake and Mr. Simpson were both acquitted in a court of law. Mr. Blake is allowed to go on with his life, but Mr. Simpson is labeled a murderer and is not afforded the same rights in many cases why is that? As far as the police shootings goes when a young man is gunned down because he allegdely pulled gun and no gun is found it kind of hard not to come to that conclusion.

Logic says if you are visiting a house often where there are numerous dog fights, dogs being killed, and dogs buried on the property, in a house you own by the way, that the odds of him not knowing at all are incredibly low.


Hmmm, he said that they were breeding dogs. I could be wrong but I am pretty sure they there are dogs that die everyday in kennels. Also Mr. Vick spends the majority of his time in ATL, so it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for him to say that there could be things going on there without his knowledge since he doesn't live there the majority of the time.

On top of the fact that the name of the dog fighting ring is a nickname that he uses on his personal website. BadNewz...spelled exactly like that. Quite the coincidence.

LOL let me see BadNewz kennels now where do I get dogfighting out of that name. Kind of like the motorcycle club: "Ruff Riders" does that name tell you that they are running people over or running them off the road.


So these people are liars? Is there some evidence you'd like to share that shows them to be lying? Or should we just assume they're lying because another human has lied before?

Originally Posted by superbadbrutha";p=&quot

I argued that they were guilty of murdering him.

Originally Posted by Rebellion";p=&quot

Well there you have it, you had no problem making judgement in that instance before it went to trial. Why the sudden change?

Uh because I value human life alittle bit more than the life of a dog, even if the the victim is a black man.

Both are allowed to go on with their life and both are labeled as being murderers.

Not so, tell me the last time Mr. Blake went to a restaurant and was denied service because the owner thought he was a murderer. Please show me where Mr. Blake has been labeled a murderer by anyone in the media or private for that matter.

So once again, it's ok if you don't wait until trial but not when others do it. Because when they do it it's racism. When you do it it's ok.

What a joke. Please tell me how a man ends up dead and 2 other men are shot up and those responsible for shooting them claim that had a gun, but there has never been a gun found. What do you call that a mistake?

Yes would be wrong. Dogs don't die every day in kennels.

Whoever said that dogs died everyday in his kennel? Is it out of the ordinary to find a 8 dead dogs in a kennel that breeds dogs, if you say yes you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Which makes you wonder why he goes there all the way from Atlanta unless he has some reason.

Uh because he is from Va and he owns a home there.

I'm not saying the name describes the business, I'm saying the name for the business is a term, with the exact same spelling, that he uses in his personal life including his personal web page. Quite the coincidence. That would be like someone having a business named GFGEFNJWOE Kennels and another individual with the word GFGEFNJWOE posted on his personal web page and saying it's mere coincidence and they don't know each other.

Say what?

His neighbors have criminal records?

Where any of his neighbors in the indictment?

Any proof of this?

Proof of what?

And why would these criminals blame Vick? Why not pick some other patsy out of thin air instead?

Uh to save their own asses its done everyday.

Neighbors don't have to attend the events to see him there.

Uh did he say that he never went to the house?

I see the same visitors coming and going to my neighbor all the time. It doesn't mean I know what they're doing there.

Originally Posted by superbadbrutha";p=&quot

Uh because I value human life alittle bit more than the life of a dog, even if the the victim is a black man.

Originally Posted by Rebellion";p=&quot

What does that have to do with it?

Lets see a human being and a dog, hmmmmm.

You said we were making judgements before trial when you did the same thing.

Lets see 3 men shot ballastics prove where the bullets came from that shot them. Doesn't sound like judgement to me sounds like fact.

So some crimes it's ok to make judgement and some it is not? Is there a list?

Looks that way. Seems as though public perception is not a big deal when a black man is murdered, but if a black man allegdely kills a dog he shot get the electric chair.

I don't follow him around. Do you have some evidence he has never been denied service? Or is this just an assumption?

Restaurant owner denies O.J. service
Jeff Ruby, owner of Jeff Ruby's Steakhouse, wasn't pleased to see O.J. Simpson taking a seat in his Louisville restaurant. So Ruby told Simpson, who was in town for the Kentucky Derby: "I'm not serving you."

http://blogs.usatoday.com/sportsscop...rant_owne.html

Show me where the media calls OJ a murderer. It happens on shows like Best (*)(*)(*)(*) Sports Show, where they also call Blake a murderer. It happens in private the same place it happens with OJ.

Take your pick Bill O'Reilly, Hannity & Colmes, Maha Rushie, Nancy Grace, Geraldo, etc. etc. etc. Hadn't seen these people label Mr. Blake as such.

Don't change the subject, answer the question, you said it's not ok to judge someone in this case. Yet you did the same exact thing. Both instances are based on evidence we see. Yet in your case it is ok, but when someone else does it it's racism.

Really, lets see they have two officers that shot and murdered Mr. Bell please show me where they show or have evidence that Mr. Vick murdered one dog.

You also defended the accuser in the Duke rape case despite mounting evidence against her. Any particular reason you took the side of a prostitute, despite that it was obviously the wrong one?

Did I really? Show me alittle proof of that. I believe I said that if she lied about being rape that she should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, because rape is a serious charge, but you left that little tidbit out of course.

Actually you don't have a clue, my Dad used to raise champion show dogs. To find dead adult dogs only a few years old, much less 8 of them, buried on the property of a kennel is very rare.

Really what he do with them burn them? I don't believe they were raising champion show dogs I haven't seen to many pitbull show dogs.

Finding adult dogs who have been hanged and had their throats slit...well I'm not sure what kennels you visit, but hangings, throat slashings and beatings aren't usually a part of the service.

I never claimed they were, but do you have proof Mr. Vick was doing that to any dogs?

So let's see, he owns a home there that he rents to family and friends and doesn't live in. And he goes every few weeks for what reason? Is he looking at drapes?

How do you know he often he goes there is there a check-in register that he signs at the front door. Lets see training camp starts in July the season runs until December, if you make the playoffs it runs through January. You only have one day off during the week which is Tuesday, hmmm doesn't leave alot of time to run the house and visit to often does it.

Also, the same people you accuse of being criminals and turning on him are the same people he calls friends and family. Makes you wonder why he is so close to those with criminal records.

Not sure because the ones I have seen are blacked out and their voices muffled so that you can't tell who they are, but I guess we will find out in November when the trial starts.

The name of the dog fighting business is the same exact name and spelling of a nickname he uses on his website. Quite a coincidence that he doesn't know about it and this business just happened to share that exact name.

Thats odd I didn't think dog fighting was a legal business that you could attach a company name to, or do you mean that was the name of his kennel.

They didn't commit a crime, they testified to his coming and going. What should they be indicted for?

My bad I didn't know the trial had started already. BTW they didn't come up with these charges from neighbors who said they saw him going and coming. It was from informants that claim they saw him a dog fights and making bets.

Yeah and why Vick? Why not some stranger? Why not someone else in the kennel? Yeah people save their asses all the time, usually by spilling the beans knowing it's the only chance they have to save themselves.

Originally Posted by superbadbrutha";p=&quot

Lets see a human being and a dog, hmmmmm.