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Old 07-01-2004, 06:32 PM
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Default Three things...

1) Tom Delay engineered the re-districting in Texas to SPECIFICALLY 'create' more rethuglicans..a politican changing the laws to suit their own purpose...

2) That makes my comment most assuredly ON TOPIC..

3) I would encourage YOU to take a long walk off a short pier...
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Default Nice try

The dems outnumbered Republicans 17-15 in Texas. Or are you saying Texas is really a dem state? LOL!! Republicans are 60% of the voting population yet the dems held the majority...uh-huh, very representative.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/1982414

All the Republicans did was correct a map that was drawn to best fit the dem needs and in no way represented the true political picture of the state. The dems did this in 1991 and the tables were finally turned. Next.
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Default THAT'S telling 'em

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"3) I would encourage YOU to take a long walk off a short pier..."


How intelligent. And what a riposte! It is so nice to stumble upon a new BB and see some folks able to debate with such acumen and verbal prowess. I wonder if this guy still "double" & "triple dares" people as well...

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Old 07-02-2004, 02:56 AM
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"3) I would encourage YOU to take a long walk off a short pier..."


How intelligent. And what a riposte! It is so nice to stumble upon a new BB and see some folks able to debate with such acumen and verbal prowess. I wonder if this guy still "double" & "triple dares" people as well...

And he is a moderator too.
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Old 07-02-2004, 03:33 AM
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"3) I would encourage YOU to take a long walk off a short pier..."


How intelligent. And what a riposte! It is so nice to stumble upon a new BB and see some folks able to debate with such acumen and verbal prowess. I wonder if this guy still "double" & "triple dares" people as well...

I double and triple "DOG" dare folks...sheesh don't you people know the proper 'dare' etiquette???
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...but personally, I haven't engaged in Kindergarden antics since...well.. Kindergarden. Please forgive me for not remembering the etiquettes.
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Come one now, in all fairness do you think the Republicans would be so passioante about this if the Gov. of Mass right now was a Democrat and would most likely appoint a Democrat to relplace Kerry? I don't think they would.

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Of course, they wouldn't like it. But they wouldn't change the law for themselves....as these Dems are doing.

Look....Governor's of all states have this right: Republican OR Democrat. That's not the point. The subject is: changing the law in the middle of an election to bernefit oneself politically.
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...but personally, I haven't engaged in Kindergarden antics since...well.. Kindergarden. Please forgive me for not remembering the etiquettes.
Apology accepted!!!
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Default It's how Dems define "fairness"

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The dems outnumbered Republicans 17-15 in Texas. Or are you saying Texas is really a dem state? LOL!! Republicans are 60% of the voting population yet the dems held the majority...uh-huh, very representative.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/1982414

All the Republicans did was correct a map that was drawn to best fit the dem needs and in no way represented the true political picture of the state. The dems did this in 1991 and the tables were finally turned. Next.
Reb....don't you know that TB and the rest of the Dems fully support it when Dems get to draw the redistricting lines, but do NOT support the Republicans EVER having a turn at it??? That's called "being fair" in the land of liberal logic!!
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Come one now, in all fairness do you think the Republicans would be so passioante about this if the Gov. of Mass right now was a Democrat and would most likely appoint a Democrat to relplace Kerry? I don't think they would.

-Demosthenes
Of course, they wouldn't like it. But they wouldn't change the law for themselves....as these Dems are doing.

Look....Governor's of all states have this right: Republican OR Democrat. That's not the point. The subject is: changing the law in the middle of an election to bernefit oneself politically.
If the governor was Democratic, the Legislature wouldn't be trying this because there would be no need.

But JP5, I have no doubt the Republicans would attempt this if the tables were reversed and they thought they could get away with it.

That doesn't make it right. But you can't use this example to show Republicans are more upstanding than Democrats.

As for Texas, we touched on this in another thread, but: Texas law requires the state to draw district lines based on the decennial census. The Legislature failed to, so it fell to the courts. At the time, the court-approved districts were certified by the AG, and everyone expected them to stand until the next census in 2010.

Instead, the Republicans came along a couple of years later and redrew them, simply because they could. At the very least, that breaks tradition and expectations -- exactly what the Mass. Legislature is accused of doing.

Whether the original lines were fair is one thing, and I concede that it's odd on the face of it to see a Democratic majority in Texas' Congressional representation. But there's a process for challenging gerrymandering. This was a pure power grab by the Republicans. And you want to talk about gerrymandering? Take a look at some of the districts the Republicans drew.
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