Thread: The Hillary Moment

OVEMBER 21, 2011

The Hillary Moment

President Obama can't win by running a constructive campaign, and he won't be able to govern if he does win a second term.

By PATRICK H. CADDELL
AND DOUGLAS E. SCHOEN

When Harry Truman and Lyndon Johnson accepted the reality that they could not effectively govern the nation if they sought re-election to the White House, both men took the moral high ground and decided against running for a new term as president. President Obama is facing a similar reality—and he must reach the same conclusion.

He should abandon his candidacy for re-election in favor of a clear alternative, one capable not only of saving the Democratic Party, but more important, of governing effectively and in a way that preserves the most important of the president's accomplishments. He should step aside for the one candidate who would become, by acclamation, the nominee of the Democratic Party: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

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Sounds like a trial balloon to me. I can dig out my postings from 2008 (yes, I archive them all) where I predicted this would happen. Now we are seeing a little testing of the waters. Obama's administration was an epic failure except for adding 4 trillion dollars to the national debt and squandering billions on crapola like the Solyndra fraud.

Obama is doomed in 2012 and he's dragging the Democrat party down with him. Over 9% unemployment for the longest sustained time in the history of this country you mean. STILL over 9% unemployment, 16+% underemployment (stimulus jobs), $4+ trillion dollars in new debt in less than 3 years, home foreclosures continuing unabated by any Obama plan, gasoline hovering around $4 a gallon while Cuba and Venezuela suck the gulf dry and food prices hitting the stratosphere. That's the platform the Democrats have to run on? The Democrat party lost a historic 63 seats in the House in 2010. Unless unemployment some how gets down to below 8% in the next 12 months, the Democrat party will all but cease to exist a year from now. Folks need jobs and the Democrats stimulus of 2009 failed to deliver anything but keep Government union workers employed. Do you really think the American people can't see that? Good luck next year, only a miracle can save your party and since most Democrats don't believe in God....well that's not going to happen either. Substituting Hillary for Obama would gel the Democrat base, but they would lose a whole lot of the Black vote. The Titanic is going down......man the lifeboats.

How does anyone figure Hillary of all people would be qualified over Obama? It was the idiot liberals that picked Obama over her in the first place. Why should the nation accept liberal leavings as our leader?

Originally Posted by Dispondent

How does anyone figure Hillary of all people would be qualified over Obama? It was the idiot liberals that picked Obama over her in the first place. Why should the nation accept liberal leavings as our leader?

The Liberals will accept her not the right and independents.

Originally Posted by Professor Peabody

The Liberals will accept her not the right and independents.

Will they? I can't see how they can attempt to sell that to the very people that rejected her. That would require them to first admit they were wrong, when's the last time you remember hearing a liberal admit they were wrong about anything?

Her movement will be in the private sector, like Bill's.

Originally Posted by Professor Peabody

Sounds like a trial balloon to me.

Hummm...Interesting. That would explain Chris M. comments about how Obama is not happy in the WH. so, Obama could just play the "poor me" card....I'm stepping down for my children"...Hillary (and Bill of course) just steps in (she will say something like.. I'm willing to do this for the country...as if it's a real sacrifice for her (and Bill of course)).

Originally Posted by botenth

Her movement will be in the private sector, like Bill's.

I hope so, I have absolutely no desire to see her making a movement.

Originally Posted by way2convey

Hummm...Interesting. That would explain Chris M. comments about how Obama is not happy in the WH. so, Obama could just play the "poor me" card....I'm stepping down for my children"...Hillary (and Bill of course) just steps in (she will say something like.. I'm willing to do this for the country...as if it's a real sacrifice for her (and Bill of course)).

It's just my theory based in a series of events. The way she just gave up at the convention after readying to call for a floor vote, pressure from the party, maybe, but she still had a huge number of supporters at the time. Accepting the Secretary of State position. This effective separates her from domestic policy issues and more importantly it makes absolutely sure she has a 4 year record on not having to vote on any issues she could get scathed over on her next run. But she would have endless fodder to nail Barack with and he would have 0 to hit back with. That's if it gets that far. I could easily see Hillary lobbying her former Congressional supporters to urge Obama NOT to run and try to convince their colleagues to do the same because she will be impervious to criticism. This would work especially well if the Democrats lost a lot of Congressional seats in the 2010 midterm like I expect them to as a back lash over their wild spending spree that will result in little economic stimulus and an inflationary spiral. The bases are all covered, if Barack chooses to stay and fight, he's got no ammo against her and the exact same would hold true if the Republicans put up another Congressmen. She'd be able to pick apart their last four years voting record just spinning it every which way but loose. What could they say about her? Not a heck of a lot. Her 4 years in State will serve as Kryptonite for negative campaign ads. Any that do come out can easily be dismissed as ancient history. Maybe as an incentive for Barack not to run again, they'll promise Michelle his old Senate seat, leaving Burris there as a placeholder till they need to throw him under the bus.

Hillary will be 65 in 2012, which would make her 73 at the end of 2 terms in 2020. If she waits till 2016 to run she'd be 69 if elected and 77 at the end of 2 terms. Just call me silly, but she's going to want to bask in the glory of being the first woman President for more than just a handful of years before she's in Depends.

I wrote the above 5/16/2009

Originally Posted by Professor Peabody

Sounds like a trial balloon to me. I can dig out my postings from 2008 (yes, I archive them all) where I predicted this would happen. .

yes you made lots of really bad predictions in 2008....im not sure why reminding us of those failures lends credibility to this latest attempt....

Originally Posted by Professor Peabody

I wrote the above 5/16/2009

in order to explain why all your previous bad predictions about the Dem nomination were so laugably wrong....

youre proud of your ability to justify your failed predictions?

im confident when youre wrong again, you will have an entire new justification for that as well.