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I respect Gen Petraeus' service to our country but I had to laugh when I first heard this phrase So there is no civil war in Iraq it is "ethno-sectarian competition toward violence". Ok that works's for me!!!

Why cannot this administration just admitt that we are involved in a civil war in Iraq ? The truth for once !!!

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Afghanistan?..OH Iraq!..oops I thought this was about actual Civil War.

As for his remarks.....
He doesn't say Civil War becasue there is no Civil War. What it is is extremist terrorist groups fighting amongst each other. Which is not a Civil War.

Why should he lie..expecially when the lie would be doing nothing but helping to validate a concoted load of baloney dreamt up by the anti-war types as an excuse for them to run out on our allies in total and complete defeat.

The USA is already involved in a Civil War one thats een goign on for over a decade... so I see no reason to run away on Iraq even if the made up Civil War there was factual.

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"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever."
"War critics can no longer credibly argue that we are losing in Iraq, so now they argue the war costs too much."
"Oderint dum metuant"
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=RnfflRNpwKA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j-QYIP7o2-A

Sure !

So if Sunni's kill off enough Shiites they would control the center of power.

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By that loose definaton the USA has been in a Civil War since 1776.

So if Crips kill off enough Bloods they would control the center of power.


If the same situation was occuring in Iraq but in the USA you can bet extremist here would use it as an opportunity to kill their rivals whether that be racial religious or whatever.

Spain 1936-3939
USA 1861-1865
etc ..is what a Civil War is

Afghanistan 1991-today is a Civil War. That the USA got involved in much like Germany and Italy got involved in Spains.

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"We make war that we may live in peace"
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever."
"War critics can no longer credibly argue that we are losing in Iraq, so now they argue the war costs too much."
"Oderint dum metuant"
http://members.cox.net/neddy/bobhope_kerfuffles.wmv
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RnfflRNpwKA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j-QYIP7o2-A

Only in th deep South.

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Rick Rowley on Anbar province; "Well. its been widely reported that these are insurgents who were fighting Americans in the past. And that, you know, is troubling for American soldiers. But the far more troubling issue for Iraq is that many of these groups are war criminals who are responsible for sectarian cleansing in the region.

We spent a month and a half in the country, and we crisscrossed Iraq. I was traveling with David Enders and met with the production support of Hiba Dawood, and we found entire communities of refugees who had been displaced by exactly the same tribes that the US had been working with in other parts of the country.

So, you know, it's one thing for Americans to call this a reconciliation process and say that, you know, we're fine with working with people who used to be fighting with us, but it's an entirely different thing for them to be funding groups who are already responsible for sectarian cleansing and are arming themselves for a sectarian civil war."

(comparing it to the times that he has been there before):

RICK ROWLEY:" It's infinitely worse than it was the last time we were there. I mean, the Tigris River is bloated with corpses. The city of Baghdad is divided up into armed camps. There are snipers who take people out as they enter and leave neighborhoods like Al-Amiriya. "

Just a little red state/ blue state misunderstanding!?

neither the Crips or Bloods are fighting to sit in City Hall an administer the city.

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hehe "Ethno-sectarian competition". Gonna have to add that to the list of peecee neocon terms along with "Enhanced interrogation techniques".

So we will have collateral distress to to non-intended targets as a result of competition among ethnic and sectarian communities.

Let me explain this to the non beleivers:

Josephus Cauldrian an Iraqi Christians loses his entire family to a IDE intended for Abdulh the Sumni. Josephus Cauldrian didn't lose his familyi in a civil war, oh no, he met up with collateral distress .

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