These are probably the idiots who get their "news" from Comedy Central, too.

I find it difficult to believe that any soldier is actually demoralized because I protest against the war. If that's the case, then they probably shouldn't be there anyway, should they? "Well, I was all for doing patrol today, but Daybreaker says the war is all about oil so now I think I'll just let the enemy shoot me."

We have to protest when we don't believe in the war. Soldiers aren't really allowed to, right? So who else is gonna? And if the war is unjust, someone has to speak out against it and try to stop it.

And this war is unjust. In my opinion, this war is not worth a single soldier's life, let alone the thousands we've lost.

THEN SURRENDER.

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"We make war that we may live in peace"
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever."
"War critics can no longer credibly argue that we are losing in Iraq, so now they argue the war costs too much."
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Well no need to find it difficult Daybreaker, it does effect morale, but some in a negative way and most, but not all I suppose were like me. I always felt that war protesters were pretty much a misinformed bunch of people who really knew nothing about what was really going on and given the chance to see it with their own eyes, maybe just maybe a few of them might just see the job we were doing over there was not all bad. I think I have made it pretty clear to ALL that I completely support your RIGHT to protest and it is a fundamental right in the United Sates if you don't disagree with something.

Now as for the war being unjust, all WARS are unjust ALL of them. NOT one (*)(*)(*)(*) War ever fought for any reason was just. In fact most in the military like to prevent WAR not make WAR. If however it comes, whatever the reason we follow ORDERS and believe in the unified chain of command and accomplish the missions given to us. I have tried my best here to help amepro understand that men and women in uniform are doing a job which they are trained to do and that each time you protest the WAR keep in mind those men and women are making sacrifices so that you can do just that.

The cost of Freedom is not Free Daybreaker and many Americans have paid for that with their lives. This War is no different in that respect, No Matter how and for what reason it began. I will never believe a single American has ever died on the battlefield for nothing.

I don't think though for a moment that your RIGHT to protest should ever be taken away for any reason.

Osama Bin Laden: Al-Qaeda Intends To Launch "A Media Campaign ... To Create A Wedge Between The American People And Their Government." (Letter From Osama Bin Laden To Mullah Omar

Bin Laden: "In Somalia … The United States [Pulled] Out, Trailing Disappointment, Defeat, And Failure Behind It." BIN LADEN: "We found that out from our brothers who fought the Americans in Somalia. They did not see it as a power worthy of any mention. It was the big propaganda that the United State used to terrify people before fighting them. Our brothers, who were here in Afghanistan, also tried the Americans. God gave them and the mujahidin success in Somalia and the United States pull out, trailing disappointment, defeat, and failure behind it. It achieved nothing. It left quicker than people had imagined." (Full Text Of Interview With Al-Qaeda Leader Osama Bin Laden, 10/21/01)

Bin Laden: "The Whole World Is Watching This War And The Two Adversaries; The Islamic Nation, On The One Hand, And The United States And Its Allies On The Other. It Is Either Victory And Glory Or Misery And Humiliation."

In the 26-minute video, bin Laden compares the Iraq war to Vietnam, criticizes the Democratic Party for failing to prompt a U.S. pullout from Iraq and encourages Americans to welcome Islam. He does not make any direct warning of an imminent attack... Yahoo News

Now let me ask you something, after reading just a few of these. do you honestly believe that by not allowing the US Mission in Iraq to finish and by pulling the US Military out now, that the people that are bent on the destruction of the very Freedoms you exercised this past weekend will just pack it in and say lets sit down and talk now? they have made it quite clear what their goals are and they could not be more clear and that is what I mean by misguided and misinformed. It seems to me the anti-war crowd is doing exactly what these people want you to do.

Seriously, is that the way you see it? If we don't follow Bush's orders and support him in an unjust war, we're surrendering?

To me, the only thing in danger of being surrendered in this situation is the peoples' will to the ambitions of a nutjob. People surrender to Bush their sense of right and wrong, their knowledge of what is and isn't -- that's genuine surrender. That's being someone's @#$%^, to be somewhat crudely specific, but the definition of being someone's @#$%^ is when they can get you to agree to something that you know isn't true.

Who do you think I'm surrendering to? Iraq? I'm not in a fight with Iraq. America isn't in a fight with Iraq. Bush is in a fight with Iraq and he's the kind of guy who has no moral compunctions about dragging American soldiers into it. So now they're in a fight with Iraq. Fine. That's how the chain of command works. I get that. I don't blame the soldiers for the war. I'm just not that stupid. Nobody is.

You don't have to surrender to not fight.

Just for the record, the appeaser demonstration was covered on ABC TV news, as were the counter-demonstrators.

Daybreaker if all you say is true you wil surrender in order to save the lives of those solfiers you claim are being wasted in a worthles war.
If you do not then those soldiers lives do not mean nearly as much to you as you claim

If YOU cannot handle YOUR own rhetoric then I suggest you spend it on something more frivoulous and NOT A GOD(*)(*)(*)(*) WAR.



There is nothing more pathetic then the verification of the "its not my fault" mentality amongst americans then the anti-war types absolving themselves of the responsibity for what they advocate.

Time you and all those like you take responsibilty for your rhetoric instead of expecting others like those soldiers you use to do it for you.

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McCain 2008
"We make war that we may live in peace"
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever."
"War critics can no longer credibly argue that we are losing in Iraq, so now they argue the war costs too much."
"Oderint dum metuant"
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=RnfflRNpwKA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j-QYIP7o2-A

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0021002-2.html

Daybreaker, just so you know, even though we find ourselves in Iraq at the moment. I would invite you to take a look at the Joint Resolution Authorizing the Use of Force in Iraq. While some Senators and others will say anything to appease their base, the facts do not bear out what they actually do. So be careful when you call this G.W. Bush's War as it is a War Authorized by congress. In fact authorized by BOTH parites Dems and Repubs. by a Vote of 77-23 in the Senate. So be careful when you say this is NOT Americas War Its G.W. Bushs War. I seem to recall when I was deployed there , I had US markings on the Aircraft I was flying and not President Bush Markings. I have put the link too below of the Senators who voted yea and nay below for you. They could have just as easily have voted nay and you and I would not be debating this subject and perhaps I would have had my retirement a year earlier than it was.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...n=2&vote=00237

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McCain 2008
"We make war that we may live in peace"
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever."
"War critics can no longer credibly argue that we are losing in Iraq, so now they argue the war costs too much."
"Oderint dum metuant"
http://members.cox.net/neddy/bobhope_kerfuffles.wmv
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RnfflRNpwKA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j-QYIP7o2-A