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Default Global Warming propaganda "bites the dust" scientists say.

New Peer-Reviewed Scientific Studies Chill Global Warming Fears

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.c...2fed8&Issue_id

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Washington DC – An abundance of new peer-reviewed studies, analysis, and data error discoveries in the last several months has prompted scientists to declare that fear of catastrophic man-made global warming “bites the dust” and the scientific underpinnings for alarm may be “falling apart.” The latest study to cast doubt on climate fears finds that even a doubling of atmospheric carbon dioxide would not have the previously predicted dire impacts on global temperatures. This new study is not unique, as a host of recent peer-reviewed studies have cast a chill on global warming fears.

A must read for everyone.

All the information that you ever needed to refute the propaganda.

Lots of links of scientific studies from scientists all across the world refuting the global warming propaganda, provided for your reading pleasure.

The propaganda of man made global warming has one goal in sight. If we have man made global warming, we need global solutions. If we need global solutions, then we need a global (one world) government. That's the only reason they are trying to scare people with this stuff.

This site gets into the politics behind the propaganda. These are things that you need to know. http://www.discerningtoday.org/

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Scientists have never backed the doomsday scenarios that some environmentalists push as propaganda. The effects, especially in the short term, have been greatly exaggerated.
Now that we're beyond that...
It's still going to create some pretty bad effects, especially for those in very poor countries with no infrastructure to speak of. It will create refugee problems if nothing else in certain areas that will hurt regional stability.
But, no, it won't end the world... and it most likely won't even have direct effects on us.
Does that mean we should altogether ignore it?
No. Besides the benefits of cleaner alternative energy go far beyond just lessening global warming.

It seems strange to me that we even take the alarmist stuff seriously enough to disprove it when it was never really supported all that much in the first place... But beyond that... the situation still isn't pretty. And we are likely to see some humanitarian crises in the east.
Can cutting emissions change that? No. That's why it's better to not worry about that so much and instead work on new technology... so we can drastically remove the impact in the long term.

Keep chaos in mind, that pesky little butterfly effect. In the short term, we can't forcast any world-ending catastrophes... but little variables add up over time. And the consequences can never be fully predicted.
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Scientists have never backed the doomsday scenarios that some environmentalists push as propaganda. The effects, especially in the short term, have been greatly exaggerated.
But many in the public do. And they need to be informed of the lies that they are being told by politicians.

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It's still going to create some pretty bad effects, especially for those in very poor countries with no infrastructure to speak of. It will create refugee problems if nothing else in certain areas that will hurt regional stability.
Actually, it's not. If you look into it, the propaganda supported efforts are hurting people in poor countries. I can't get into all the details, but they would be growing their own food in abundance in Africa if it were not for the wacko bull that we need to go through to "save the planet" that only desire to scare people into a one world government. you would be amazed at how much harm we are doing in the name of "saving the planet". Many envirnmentalists who have bought into the man made global warming crap, after watching the video from the second link, became very angry at how deceptive the lies of the propaganists were. They no longer support that crap. As long as it is being used as a political tool, people need to know the truth.

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Does that mean we should altogether ignore it?
No. Besides the benefits of cleaner alternative energy go far beyond just lessening global warming.
I think that you will find that there is not one person who is against doing things of this nature. I know that those who do not buy into the man made end of the world as we know it global warming are always painted into the furthest opposite extreme. Most concervatives that I know are actually very envirnmentally consceous.
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"A federal judge in San Francisco has thrown out a lawsuit by the state of California against the six largest automakers. The suit claimed the companies were liable for contributing to global warming."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297253,00.html


What a disguting move by the left-coast state of California.
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"A federal judge in San Francisco has thrown out a lawsuit by the state of California against the six largest automakers. The suit claimed the companies were liable for contributing to global warming."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297253,00.html


What a disguting move by the left-coast state of California.
But else to expect from California. They should file a lawsuit against themselves. They're the ones who drive the cars and SUV's. On par with suing McDonald's because their food is fattening.
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New Peer-Reviewed Scientific Studies Chill Global Warming Fears

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.c...2fed8&Issue_id

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Washington DC – An abundance of new peer-reviewed studies, analysis, and data error discoveries in the last several months has prompted scientists to declare that fear of catastrophic man-made global warming “bites the dust” and the scientific underpinnings for alarm may be “falling apart.” The latest study to cast doubt on climate fears finds that even a doubling of atmospheric carbon dioxide would not have the previously predicted dire impacts on global temperatures. This new study is not unique, as a host of recent peer-reviewed studies have cast a chill on global warming fears.

A must read for everyone.

All the information that you ever needed to refute the propaganda.

Lots of links of scientific studies from scientists all across the world refuting the global warming propaganda, provided for your reading pleasure.

The propaganda of man made global warming has one goal in sight. If we have man made global warming, we need global solutions. If we need global solutions, then we need a global (one world) government. That's the only reason they are trying to scare people with this stuff.

This site gets into the politics behind the propaganda. These are things that you need to know. http://www.discerningtoday.org/

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But does the report refute:
1) The temperature of the earth is rising.
2) Man is contributing and/or the primary culprit.


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The propaganda of man made global warming has one goal in sight. If we have man made global warming, we need global solutions. If we need global solutions, then we need a global (one world) government. That's the only reason they are trying to scare people with this stuff.
Uh...sorry...that's not the ONLY reason.

You forgot MONEY.
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But does the report refute:
1) The temperature of the earth is rising.
2) Man is contributing and/or the primary culprit.
#1) No, but they put it in the proper context. It is natural for temperatures to rise and fall over time. History shows that this has happened since the temperatures have begun to be recorded. Are you seeking to establish perfect global temperature stability? Because this has never happened since temperatures have begun to be recorded. Which would start another propaganda brigaid. Global temperature stability. Oh no!

#2) This has never been proven. Most scientists will allow for that possibility, though (understood within the proper context). Mostly, what the propagandists do is muddy the waters between #1 and #2. Thus they can show a chart with natural global warming #1, and dishonestly use it as proof for #2.

The links go over all of this.
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