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Rice tells nuke watchdog to butt out of Iran diplomacyStory Highlights


SHANNON, Ireland (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice cautioned the U.N. nuclear watchdog group Wednesday not to interfere with international diplomacy over Iran's alleged weapons program.

Condoleezza Rice criticized the U.N. nuclear watchdog group Wednesday while en route to the Middle East.

The International Atomic Energy Agency "is not in the business of diplomacy," Rice told reporters traveling with her to the Middle East.

The IAEA's role should be limited to carrying out inspections and offering a "clear declaration and clear reporting on what the Iranians are doing; whether and when and if they are living up to the agreements they have signed," she said.

Rice was referring to recent comments made by IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei, in which he criticized U.S. rhetoric about Iran.

ElBaradei has called for less emphasis on additional U.N. sanctions against Iran in favor of enhanced cooperation between the IAEA and Tehran. Iran has agreed with IAEA requests to answer unresolved questions about its nuclear program."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/...eref=rss_world

ElBaradei has always been a problem. It's pretty obvious where his biases are. And the IAEA is the one who gave us the final report on Iraq which listed TONS OF UNACCOUNTED FOR WMD AND WMD MATERIALS. And what's really hard to believe is that we would believe anything the IAEA would tell us.
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THe IAEA has while originally confirming Irans "secretive" nuclear program and fo a time sayign they whee not co-opeating...It has since been more of an obstruction and aid to Iran then anything else. IOW it acts like the body it is a part of.


France and Germany have made it clear they already intend to go down a path of sanctions outside the UN and that if Iran doesn't get the message it probably will mean war.
Better then nothing or going through the UN which is one and the same.

BUT-
We all need to drop the diplomatic games with Iran and simply tell them "you cross this line it means war no ifs ands or buts".

Eventually people woke up on Hitler..but by the time they did he no longer believed them(thus his "What Now?" to Ribbentrop after being told France and the UK had declared war over Poland).
We are either at o very close to that point with Iran.
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Rice tells nuke watchdog to butt out of Iran diplomacyStory Highlights


SHANNON, Ireland (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice cautioned the U.N. nuclear watchdog group Wednesday not to interfere with international diplomacy over Iran's alleged weapons program.
What international diplomacy?

Condoleezza Rice criticized the U.N. nuclear watchdog group Wednesday while en route to the Middle East.

The International Atomic Energy Agency "is not in the business of diplomacy," Rice told reporters traveling with her to the Middle East.
Apparently, neither is the Bush Administration.

The IAEA's role should be limited to carrying out inspections and offering a "clear declaration and clear reporting on what the Iranians are doing; whether and when and if they are living up to the agreements they have signed," she said.
So that the US can do what it wants, just like the Iraq invasion. The US ignored the weapons inspectors and plans to do so again.

Rice was referring to recent comments made by IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei, in which he criticized U.S. rhetoric about Iran.

ElBaradei has called for less emphasis on additional U.N. sanctions against Iran in favor of enhanced cooperation between the IAEA and Tehran. Iran has agreed with IAEA requests to answer unresolved questions about its nuclear program."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/...eref=rss_world

ElBaradei has always been a problem. It's pretty obvious where his biases are. And the IAEA is the one who gave us the final report on Iraq which listed TONS OF UNACCOUNTED FOR WMD AND WMD MATERIALS. And what's really hard to believe is that we would believe anything the IAEA would tell us.
Why wouldn't we believe anything the IAEA tells us? We have been fed lies for 6 years now, by this corrupt administration.
You are wrong about the IAEA giving a final report that verifies WMD. In January, 2003, the IAEA stated that they would need a year to complete their investigations. When did Bush decide to kick them out, and invade anyway? On yeah, three months later.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/...ons/index.html

I love how you try to rewrite history....
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Rice tells nuke watchdog to butt out of Iran diplomacyStory Highlights


SHANNON, Ireland (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice cautioned the U.N. nuclear watchdog group Wednesday not to interfere with international diplomacy over Iran's alleged weapons program.
What international diplomacy?

Condoleezza Rice criticized the U.N. nuclear watchdog group Wednesday while en route to the Middle East.

The International Atomic Energy Agency "is not in the business of diplomacy," Rice told reporters traveling with her to the Middle East.
Apparently, neither is the Bush Administration.

The IAEA's role should be limited to carrying out inspections and offering a "clear declaration and clear reporting on what the Iranians are doing; whether and when and if they are living up to the agreements they have signed," she said.
So that the US can do what it wants, just like the Iraq invasion. The US ignored the weapons inspectors and plans to do so again.

Rice was referring to recent comments made by IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei, in which he criticized U.S. rhetoric about Iran.

ElBaradei has called for less emphasis on additional U.N. sanctions against Iran in favor of enhanced cooperation between the IAEA and Tehran. Iran has agreed with IAEA requests to answer unresolved questions about its nuclear program."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/...eref=rss_world

ElBaradei has always been a problem. It's pretty obvious where his biases are. And the IAEA is the one who gave us the final report on Iraq which listed TONS OF UNACCOUNTED FOR WMD AND WMD MATERIALS. And what's really hard to believe is that we would believe anything the IAEA would tell us.
Why wouldn't we believe anything the IAEA tells us? We have been fed lies for 6 years now, by this corrupt administration.
You are wrong about the IAEA giving a final report that verifies WMD. In January, 2003, the IAEA stated that they would need a year to complete their investigations. When did Bush decide to kick them out, and invade anyway? On yeah, three months later.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/...ons/index.html

I love how you try to rewrite history....
I'm talking about the final 1999 report on Iraq's wmd.

http://www.fas.org/news/un/iraq/s/990125/index.html
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I don't get it...

If "everyone" is trying to confirm that Hussein didn't have WMD's, then why is the IAEA wanting to get involved? Don't they already know there aren't any WMD's in Iraq?

....or, maybe....
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Rice tells nuke watchdog to butt out of Iran diplomacyStory Highlights


SHANNON, Ireland (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice cautioned the U.N. nuclear watchdog group Wednesday not to interfere with international diplomacy over Iran's alleged weapons program.
What international diplomacy?

Condoleezza Rice criticized the U.N. nuclear watchdog group Wednesday while en route to the Middle East.

The International Atomic Energy Agency "is not in the business of diplomacy," Rice told reporters traveling with her to the Middle East.
Apparently, neither is the Bush Administration.

The IAEA's role should be limited to carrying out inspections and offering a "clear declaration and clear reporting on what the Iranians are doing; whether and when and if they are living up to the agreements they have signed," she said.
So that the US can do what it wants, just like the Iraq invasion. The US ignored the weapons inspectors and plans to do so again.

Rice was referring to recent comments made by IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei, in which he criticized U.S. rhetoric about Iran.

ElBaradei has called for less emphasis on additional U.N. sanctions against Iran in favor of enhanced cooperation between the IAEA and Tehran. Iran has agreed with IAEA requests to answer unresolved questions about its nuclear program."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/...eref=rss_world

ElBaradei has always been a problem. It's pretty obvious where his biases are. And the IAEA is the one who gave us the final report on Iraq which listed TONS OF UNACCOUNTED FOR WMD AND WMD MATERIALS. And what's really hard to believe is that we would believe anything the IAEA would tell us.
Why wouldn't we believe anything the IAEA tells us? We have been fed lies for 6 years now, by this corrupt administration.
You are wrong about the IAEA giving a final report that verifies WMD. In January, 2003, the IAEA stated that they would need a year to complete their investigations. When did Bush decide to kick them out, and invade anyway? On yeah, three months later.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/...ons/index.html

I love how you try to rewrite history....
I'm talking about the final 1999 report on Iraq's wmd.

http://www.fas.org/news/un/iraq/s/990125/index.html
So the IAEA went back into Iraq before the invasion, in 2003, and you are still calling the 1999 report final?
Please, buy a calendar.
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I don't get it...

If "everyone" is trying to confirm that Hussein didn't have WMD's, then why is the IAEA wanting to get involved? Don't they already know there aren't any WMD's in Iraq?

....or, maybe....
They are talking about IRAN, not IRAQ.
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The IAEA's role should be limited to carrying out inspections and offering a "clear declaration and clear reporting on what the Iranians are doing; whether and when and if they are living up to the agreements they have signed," she said.
They were ignored before.

Maybe Rice can give us a clear definition of aluminum tubes, or maybe she can help us define imminent danger from bin laden or maybe she will "move heaven and earth" again.
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Rice tells nuke watchdog to butt out of Iran diplomacyStory Highlights


SHANNON, Ireland (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice cautioned the U.N. nuclear watchdog group Wednesday not to interfere with international diplomacy over Iran's alleged weapons program.
What international diplomacy?

Condoleezza Rice criticized the U.N. nuclear watchdog group Wednesday while en route to the Middle East.

The International Atomic Energy Agency "is not in the business of diplomacy," Rice told reporters traveling with her to the Middle East.
Apparently, neither is the Bush Administration.

The IAEA's role should be limited to carrying out inspections and offering a "clear declaration and clear reporting on what the Iranians are doing; whether and when and if they are living up to the agreements they have signed," she said.
So that the US can do what it wants, just like the Iraq invasion. The US ignored the weapons inspectors and plans to do so again.

Rice was referring to recent comments made by IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei, in which he criticized U.S. rhetoric about Iran.

ElBaradei has called for less emphasis on additional U.N. sanctions against Iran in favor of enhanced cooperation between the IAEA and Tehran. Iran has agreed with IAEA requests to answer unresolved questions about its nuclear program."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/...eref=rss_world

ElBaradei has always been a problem. It's pretty obvious where his biases are. And the IAEA is the one who gave us the final report on Iraq which listed TONS OF UNACCOUNTED FOR WMD AND WMD MATERIALS. And what's really hard to believe is that we would believe anything the IAEA would tell us.
Why wouldn't we believe anything the IAEA tells us? We have been fed lies for 6 years now, by this corrupt administration.
You are wrong about the IAEA giving a final report that verifies WMD. In January, 2003, the IAEA stated that they would need a year to complete their investigations. When did Bush decide to kick them out, and invade anyway? On yeah, three months later.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/...ons/index.html

I love how you try to rewrite history....
I'm talking about the final 1999 report on Iraq's wmd.

http://www.fas.org/news/un/iraq/s/990125/index.html
So the IAEA went back into Iraq before the invasion, in 2003, and you are still calling the 1999 report final?
Please, buy a calendar.
I don't need a calendar. 1999 was the FINAL report that listed all the UNACCOUNTED FOR WMD AND WMD MATERIALS. Now....they were either 100% WRONG, or Saddam got the wmd and wmd materials out of there once he knew we were coming in. Take your pick.
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Rice tells nuke watchdog to butt out of Iran diplomacyStory Highlights


SHANNON, Ireland (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice cautioned the U.N. nuclear watchdog group Wednesday not to interfere with international diplomacy over Iran's alleged weapons program.
What international diplomacy?

Condoleezza Rice criticized the U.N. nuclear watchdog group Wednesday while en route to the Middle East.

The International Atomic Energy Agency "is not in the business of diplomacy," Rice told reporters traveling with her to the Middle East.
Apparently, neither is the Bush Administration.

The IAEA's role should be limited to carrying out inspections and offering a "clear declaration and clear reporting on what the Iranians are doing; whether and when and if they are living up to the agreements they have signed," she said.
So that the US can do what it wants, just like the Iraq invasion. The US ignored the weapons inspectors and plans to do so again.

Rice was referring to recent comments made by IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei, in which he criticized U.S. rhetoric about Iran.

ElBaradei has called for less emphasis on additional U.N. sanctions against Iran in favor of enhanced cooperation between the IAEA and Tehran. Iran has agreed with IAEA requests to answer unresolved questions about its nuclear program."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/...eref=rss_world

ElBaradei has always been a problem. It's pretty obvious where his biases are. And the IAEA is the one who gave us the final report on Iraq which listed TONS OF UNACCOUNTED FOR WMD AND WMD MATERIALS. And what's really hard to believe is that we would believe anything the IAEA would tell us.
Why wouldn't we believe anything the IAEA tells us? We have been fed lies for 6 years now, by this corrupt administration.
You are wrong about the IAEA giving a final report that verifies WMD. In January, 2003, the IAEA stated that they would need a year to complete their investigations. When did Bush decide to kick them out, and invade anyway? On yeah, three months later.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/...ons/index.html

I love how you try to rewrite history....
So I guess France and Germany are also lying. Apparently they're just thirsty for war eh?
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