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Default Media Blackout: 161 Federal Tax Charges, 0 Convictions

Media Blackout:
161 Federal Tax Charges, 0 Convictions

IRS Suffers Staggering Defeat

Tax Questions Raised Regarding
Gold and Silver Coins Used to Pay Wages

Around noon on Monday, September 17th, a Las Vegas federal jury returned its verdict refusing to convict nine defendants of any of the 161 federal tax crimes they had been charged with. The charges included income tax evasion, willful failure to file and conspiracy to evade taxes.

The four-month trial centered around the family businesses of Robert Kahre who paid numerous workers for their labor with circulating gold and silver U.S. coins, and did not report the wages. The payments took place over several years, allegedly totaling at least $114 million dollars.

On September 20, 2007, three days after the federal trial's dramatic conclusion, the Las Vegas Review Journal, reportedly under a degree of public pressure, ran its first (and last) story about the outcome of the trial. To this day, with exception of the single article by the Review Journal, no major media entity has published a news story regarding the outcome of this important federal criminal tax case.

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Talk about a loophole! I love it! It apparently works so well that the govt doesn't want it to be common knowledge. I love it when the IRS loses.

I'm not sure how this works with minimum wage laws in place. I'd gladly work for a dollar an hour if it was a silver dollar.
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Talk about a loophole!
It's actually more profound than that. There's a specific reason the Income Tax and the Federal Reserve Act were passed at roughly the same time. The details of the connection are here.
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Notice that the main defendants weren't acquitted; they had a hung jury. Meaning as little as one out of 12 jurors simply refused to convict.

It's a pretty clever loophole, though.

And notice this stirring defense:

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Michael Kennedy, who defended Lori Kahre, said the case turned on the notion that taxpayers could be wrong without being criminal. He was referring to the fact that his client, Lori Kahre, and other defendants had not paid taxes according to the market value of the precious metal content of the coins in which they were paid, as opposed to their face value. He conceded at trial that his client may owe federal taxes for her mistakes.
Conceding taxes are owed, but that it was an honest mistake, is hardly a strong antitax defense.

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Jurors got stuck on the question of whether the government had proved defendants intentionally violated tax law, according to David Ramirez, jury foreman.
Doesn't seem like it was decided on tax grounds.
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Notice that the main defendants weren't acquitted; they had a hung jury. Meaning as little as one out of 12 jurors simply refused to convict.
Or as many as 11 out of 12 refused to convict. You are still a master spinner, raytri.

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Michael Kennedy, who defended Lori Kahre, said the case turned on the notion that taxpayers could be wrong without being criminal. He was referring to the fact that his client, Lori Kahre, and other defendants had not paid taxes according to the market value of the precious metal content of the coins in which they were paid, as opposed to their face value. He conceded at trial that his client may owe federal taxes for her mistakes.
Conceding taxes are owed, but that it was an honest mistake, is hardly a strong antitax defense.
That's not what he said, raytri. He said his client may owe. I'd bet the judge was disallowing much of what they wanted to present on the legality of the income tax.

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Jurors got stuck on the question of whether the government had proved defendants intentionally violated tax law, according to David Ramirez, jury foreman.
Doesn't seem like it was decided on tax grounds.
I would say it clearly was decided on tax grounds if the government couldn't prove to the satisfaction of the jury that the defendants had violated tax law.


Let's look at a few things I found recently on the IRS's Individual Master Files. Not an issue in this case, but a huge issue nonetheless:


From the Handbook for Special Agents, page 9781-51, 334.112
The Individual Master File Section:

"(1) The Individual Master File is a magnetic tape record of all individual income tax filers in Social Security Number sequence, and is maintained at the National Computer Center.

The Individual Master File is designed to accumulate in each taxpayer's account all data pertaining to the income taxes for which the taxpayer is liable. (Gets tricky when you start chasing down the definitions for exactly who is a "taxpayer" and who is "liable" for what)

The taxpayer information stored in the master computer for each IMF may be understood only by a careful and tedious process of decoding by references to the explanations contained in the IRS 6209 Manual, IMF Operations Manual, Law Enforcement Manual, and several other manuals published by the Service for the instruction and guidance of its personnel."

This creates a prime facie case against you in court, because the IRS takes these Individual Master Files in against you.


Prime facie cases must be REBUTTED.

The IMF files are a "Rebuttable Presumption" in the law of evidence.

If you do not rebut them, they are said to have "Presumptive Correctness" in any court action against you.

Why is this important? Because the courts have already ruled on the matter:

"Government prevails in challenge to individual’s appeals hearing in which master file transcripts were considered at hearing instead of tax returns." - Stanifird v. Wilcox et al. 87 AFTR2d Par. 2001-1058 June 12, 2001.

Decode your IMF and you will find the truth. Listen to the truth that leaks out from a former chief of the IRS's Freedom of Information Act branch:

"The overwhelming majority of taxpayers appear to be perfectly willing to face serious adverse action without bothering to make any significant effort to learn what the agency knows about them or how they came to be in that situation. In fact, even subjects of major criminal investigation seldom bother to make such inquiries, apparently being willing to face trial and risk imprisonment without writing a simple letter which could produce information which could literally save their freedom.”

- Marcus Farbenblum, Chief of the Freedom of Information Branch, IRS National Office, from his book, “The I.R.S. and the Freedom of Information and Privacy Act of 1974,” regarding FOIA requests

Now if someone doesn't pay their taxes and is charged with a crime, why is this IRS chief at the FOIA office telling people they "could literally save their freedom" by writing a simple letter requesting information from a Freedom of Information Act?

Think about it, people. The only possible explanation is that something is indeed hidden in their Individual Master File which would prove they don't owe the tax.
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Happy to see the IRS lose, as an owner of a small business I find the taxes gouging anyway. But meanwhile, the husband and wife tax evaders in NH (supported by Randy Weaver) were arrested at their homes last week and will begin serving the sentences on their conviction. Point being, evading taxes will get you jail for most people.
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