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Old 10-12-2007, 09:27 PM
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Default How did we forget about Tibet?

I know that this country has a terribly forgetful collective memory, so maybe I already know the answer. But, how did we as a people that supposedly values justice and democracy allow the Chinese to ravage peaceful Tibet, and then give them a clean slate?

The horrors commited on the Tibetan people, their culture, and their religious freedom is disgusting, and one of the most vile acts in history. And yet our country watched it happen so many years ago, and we continue to let the Chinese regime off the hook for its continuing travasties.

And now, to add insult to injury, China will be hosting that internatiol symbol of goodwill and peace, the Olympics. For shame. Where is the outrage?

I know its cliche but...

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Old 10-12-2007, 10:12 PM
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The invasion occured during the Korean war there was a desire initially to stay out of it because of that(don't widen the war)...afterwards there where attempts to start an insurgency movement with some very notable success ntil aroudn 1959..there was arming training of forces operating out of Nepal until 1969..Then Nixon went to China....
Shortly after that the Dalai Lama himself shafted any real chances by saying he preferred "a peaceful process to liberation"

Now there is nothing ..although something probably could be started if the USA and others where willing to cause the destailizaiton and harm in relations with China. Far Left would have a hissy fit an Democrast would declare it ill advised, etc.

As long as the Dalai Lama hold that view and remains alive. As long as willing to fight and risk death Tibetans are not supplied with weaponry.
Simply put as long as "the world" is not willing to accept the necessary bloodshed/horror that will definately occur in such a struggle Tibet will remain a province of China.

China will never give up Tibet under the current Communist Government and likely any other without an ongoing insurrection in Tibet.


Then throw in the fact that China is willing to lose millions in wars and the USA seems unwilling to lose a few thousand....and as the those snazy Italian mafia types like to say........ "Forget about it"

Also keep in mind Nepal especially has been destabilized by years of Chinese supplied Maoists..IOW it will turn pretty quickly into a regional affair and IF India gets involved all bets are off on how far it would go.


So lets put it real simply ..
You can forget about boycotts, sanctions, nasty letters, and all that CHina is not going to do a dman thing because of such

You can support/supply the nasty realities of this world casue many many peopel their deaths perhaps even a regional/global war.


Willing to take that risk willing to cause all that suffering?

If not stick with the cliche and go to the concerts...just never expect anything to occur because it won't.
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I know that this country has a terribly forgetful collective memory, so maybe I already know the answer. But, how did we as a people that supposedly values justice and democracy allow the Chinese to ravage peaceful Tibet, and then give them a clean slate?

The horrors commited on the Tibetan people, their culture, and their religious freedom is disgusting, and one of the most vile acts in history. And yet our country watched it happen so many years ago, and we continue to let the Chinese regime off the hook for its continuing travasties.

And now, to add insult to injury, China will be hosting that internatiol symbol of goodwill and peace, the Olympics. For shame. Where is the outrage?

I know its cliche but...

FREE TIBET

We didn't "allow" anything - chinese communists did it in a fait accompli. What do you want us to do now? Liberate it? Oooooooo no - we found out with Saddam libs don't like the US to liberate dictatorships. So this is really a meaningless post of your's - isn't it?
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Default Here's why....

1. Tibet is not sitting on oil reserves or other valuable resources.
2. China's military is considerably larger than Iraq or Iran. (Same reason we don't support a separate Taiwan)
3. We pick and choose which dictators to go after based on 1 & 2.
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Default Hmmm

Sadly Tibet no longer exists. And as time goes by there is less chance it ever will again.

Why?

Because the Chinese government is using a resettlement program to make the nation "Chinese". So the only way Tibet could be liberated would be to remove all those settlers and their children.
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I know that this country has a terribly forgetful collective memory, so maybe I already know the answer. But, how did we as a people that supposedly values justice and democracy allow the Chinese to ravage peaceful Tibet, and then give them a clean slate?

The horrors commited on the Tibetan people, their culture, and their religious freedom is disgusting, and one of the most vile acts in history. And yet our country watched it happen so many years ago, and we continue to let the Chinese regime off the hook for its continuing travasties.

And now, to add insult to injury, China will be hosting that internatiol symbol of goodwill and peace, the Olympics. For shame. Where is the outrage?

I know its cliche but...FREE TIBET

There are a lot of reason why we forgot about Tibet. Duh actually pointed out a point or two which I agree with. Think about the reaction the administration ha toward the Armenian genocide resolution. This is not a good time. Why now? It will hurt our relations with TURKEY. Well just substitute the Red Communist Chinese for Turkey and you got your answer. !
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Sadly Tibet no longer exists. And as time goes by there is less chance it ever will again.

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Because the Chinese government is using a resettlement program to make the nation "Chinese". So the only way Tibet could be liberated would be to remove all those settlers and their children.
DREAM YOU GOT THAT RIGHT !! The Chinese used the old Stalin-Russian ethnic cleansing action. If you can't shoot them, starve them out, if that fails reseyttle them. Stalin populated Siberia that way. The Red Chinese have populated Long Gone Ho province that way
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1. Tibet is not sitting on oil reserves or other valuable resources.
2. China's military is considerably larger than Iraq or Iran. (Same reason we don't support a separate Taiwan)
3. We pick and choose which dictators to go after based on 1 & 2.
Why should an American die for Tibet's independence ????????
Why should an American die for Tibet's independence ????????

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1. Tibet is not sitting on oil reserves or other valuable resources.
Riiiiiiight - like now we're stealing iraq's oil.

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2. China's military is considerably larger than Iraq or Iran. (Same reason we don't support a separate Taiwan)
The US supported the Republic of China for many years until appeaser Jimmy Carter abandoned them.



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Liberals don't pick and choose what dictators to off - ALL dictators are just fine with them.
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1. Tibet is not sitting on oil reserves or other valuable resources.
2. China's military is considerably larger than Iraq or Iran. (Same reason we don't support a separate Taiwan)
3. We pick and choose which dictators to go after based on 1 & 2.
Why should an American die for Tibet's independence ????????
Why should an American die for Tibet's independence ????????

Forget about it!!
I agree with Bobsled!

Don't worry too much about other country!
Tibet is a spiritually strong nation. China can not get anything out of them{how much is religion?}. As long as they keep their religion and peace, why should we worry about them. The same reason apply to Taiwan issue too. Care more about our own nation first before you have eyes on others.[confucius says]
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