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Old 07-07-2004, 12:00 PM
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Default Attention..McCain NOT Kerry's 1st choice

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Please pay PARTICULAR attention to the following sentence: "Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who has been asked for months whether he would join the Kerry ticket, said Wednesday he has never been offered the job of Kerry’s running mate and would not accept such a position. "

..and THIS SPECIFIC QUOTE "But I was never offered that”

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Old 07-07-2004, 12:11 PM
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While you are technically correct there is this from Larry King last night:

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SCHIEFFER: No. I think Ralph Nader is trying to run for president, and I think if he were going to get out, he would have got out some time ago. If he doesn't get on ballots, that of course is another question.

I'll tell you what I think is the interesting thing about this, Larry, is immediately after this was announced, the Republicans said, well, hey, let's not forget here that John Edwards is really second choice, that the man that John Kerry really wanted was John McCain.

And there is some truth about that, and the Kerry campaign is being rather candid about that. I spoke to Jim Johnson today, who headed up the search effort for Senator Kerry, and I asked him about this, this whole business about McCain. I said, did you really do that?

And he said, well, Senator Kerry talked about this as a concept. He said a national unity ticket, with John McCain possibly as a running mate, but said we only talked about it as a concept, the job was never offered to McCain, and finally that idea was abandoned.

And I said, well, why did you abandon the concept? And he said, well, because Senator McCain was not available. I said, well, what would you have done had he been available? He said, well, that's a hard question. That's hard to say. But he wasn't available.


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KING: David Gergen, would that ticket have worked?

GERGEN: The Kerry/McCain ticket?

KING: Yes.

GERGEN: Absolutely. I really thought it was stupid for the Kerry people and Democrats to put it out that he'd approached him, that they'd had these early conversations. Because I think it did exactly what Bob Schieffer said, it made whoever his next choice was look like a second choice. I thought that was just a clumsy campaign movement on their part.

Having said that, I think he's now able to open a new chapter, a new page. And I'm very struck by what Ed Rollins said about Ralph Nader. I do think that this may come -- it may hold Nader back some. He's having a hard time getting on some of these ballots, but if he softens his voice, he's going to be even less of a force. So I think that's a fascinating part of this.

The only other point I'd add is that Dick Cheney has made the office of the vice presidency one heck of a lot more important than it seemed only four years ago. And, therefore this choice I think is going to be taken more seriously than we ordinarily think, and that it makes more difference whether Edwards turns out to be a candidate than it does in most races, because I think Edwards is going to run straight at Cheney.
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Please pay PARTICULAR attention to the following sentence: "Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who has been asked for months whether he would join the Kerry ticket, said Wednesday he has never been offered the job of Kerry’s running mate and would not accept such a position. "

..and THIS SPECIFIC QUOTE "But I was never offered that”

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Sorry....but that article is from June 16th. Lots happened after that.

Besides, it's not how they work. So that they can claim they never offered it to a certain person, they are always careful to not actually make the offer. It's done like this: "IF I were to offer you such a postion, would you accept?" If the person keeps saying...."NO"......then they never extend the formal offer. But everyone with half a brain......even Democrats.....knows what it all means. John McCain was his first choice...and John McCain continued to tell him he would NOT accept if offered.
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Default I am done with you. You are a complete waste of time.

He was never offered the job. What is it about [b]NEVER OFFERED[/b] that you can't get through your increcibly thick cranium?

Even when the man himself says he wasn't offered the job you don't accept it....

Unbelievable, simply unbelievable....

KLang..technically you are full of the brown and squishy...From your quote "but said we only talked about it as a concept, the job was never offered to McCain"
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He was never offered the job. What is it about [b]NEVER OFFERED[/b] that you can't get through your increcibly thick cranium?

Even when the man himself says he wasn't offered the job you don't accept it....

Unbelievable, simply unbelievable....

KLang..technically you are full of the brown and squishy...From your quote "but said we only talked about it as a concept, the job was never offered to McCain"
Why does it even matter?
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if McCain was his first choice or not? It wasn't ever going to happen anyways. Guys, this is a ridiculous discussion, and I hope you all know it.
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Everybody KNOWS that John Kerry wanted John McCain to be his running mate. He felt him out on it....and was consitently told NO. I explained how it's done earlier. Yes, no formal offer, but everyone knows what the deal is and why.

Dems shouldn't be so mad. I'd have looked outside the party too......considering the choices he had.
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Everybody KNOWS that John Kerry wanted John McCain to be his running mate. He felt him out on it....and was consitently told NO. I explained how it's done earlier. Yes, no formal offer, but everyone knows what the deal is and why.

Dems shouldn't be so mad. I'd have looked outside the party too......considering the choices he had.
Great come back!! Thanks for the laugh although so true!!!
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