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Old 10-28-2007, 11:49 PM
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Clinton didn't take any crap off the ME OPEC oil dealers, and when the raised prices we cut our supply and started using our own oil held in three major reserves in America. OPEC quickly cut the crap and started giving fair prices again. No, Bush ain't your buddy, he has his hand in the black crude, and just set a new Worlds record for a barrel of oil. Wall Street must be dancing on the ceiling. But Hillary will lower oil prices, just like Bill did, and the OPEC gouging will be over like Bush Iraq war.

Oil Sets Record, Surpassing $93 a Barrel
By GILLIAN WONG,AP
Posted: 2007-10-29 02:40:24
SINGAPORE (AP) - Oil prices rose above $93 a barrel to a new trading high in Asia Monday on growing political tensions in the Middle East, a weak dollar and worries about the supply outlook ahead of the winter.

"The strong price is due to supply concerns in general, on top of which we have the geopolitical news," said Victor Shum, a Singapore-based energy analyst with Purvin & Gertz.

Light, sweet crude for December delivery rose as much as $1.34 to $93.20 a barrel, a new intraday record, in early afternoon Asian electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange, before slipping back to $93.05.

That was still up $1.19 from Friday's record close of $91.86 a barrel. The previous trading high was $92.22 a barrel, set Friday.

A rumbling of tensions in the Middle East has worried traders about the disruption of oil exports.


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IF YOU DON'T KNOW IT - THIS IS YOUR OIL - YOU BOUGHT IT & IT SITS IN YOUR OIL RESERVES. I'd mad as hell if someone was denying me the oil I pumped and paid to put in my storage tanks.


Strategic Petroleum Reserve -
Quick Facts and Frequently Asked Questions
The Strategic Petroleum Reserve is a U.S. Government complex of four sites with deep underground storage caverns created in salt domes along the Texas and Louisiana Gulf Coast that store emergency supplies of crude oil.

Inventory
Current inventory: Click to open inventory update window
Highest inventory - The SPR reached its highest level of 700.7 million barrels in late August 2005. The Hurricane Katrina loans and sales reduced it during Fall 2005.
Current storage capacity - 727 million barrels
Current days of import protection in SPR - 56 days
(Maximum days of import protection in SPR - 118 days in 1985)
International Energy Agency requirement - 90 days of import protection (both public and private stocks)
(SPR and private company import protection - approx. 118 days)
Average price paid for oil in the Reserve - $27.73 per barrel

Drawdown Capability

Maximum drawdown capability - 4.4 million barrels per day
Time for oil to enter U.S. market - 13 days from Presidential decision

Past Sales [click on link for more details]
2005 Hurricane Katrina Sale - 11 million barrels
1996-97 total non-emergency sales - 28 million barrels
1990/91 Desert Shield/Storm Sale - 21 million barrels
(4 million in August 1990 test sale; 17 million in January 1991 Presidentially-ordered drawdown)
1985 - Test Sale - 1.1 million barrels

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Old 10-29-2007, 04:15 AM
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Well.........not quite. First of all, the oil held in reserves (under federal control) isn't paid for by tax money but by oil companies. Therefore, citizens have not paid for the reserves. Now, Hillary, like Bill, would open up those reserves if necessary to win the Presidency................anything necessary (remember?) toward the greater end.

Hillary has stated that she will establish a limit on profits allowed to oil companies, re-distributing instead the profit overages to development of alternative clean and renewable energy. This is the kind of leadership America needs in solving our oil crisis, healthcare, and education needs. Fairness in distribution of wealth will be a top priority.
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Wait, is lowering gas prices before or after she increases the gas tax by 50 cents.

Considering that in her state, the gas tax is currently 53 cents this is some utter BS.

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IF YOU DON'T KNOW IT - THIS IS YOUR OIL - YOU BOUGHT IT & IT SITS IN YOUR OIL RESERVES. I'd mad as hell if someone was denying me the oil I pumped and paid to put in my storage tanks.
Did you ever stop and think, why do we keep a reserve of oil?
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anything necessary (remember?) toward the greater end.
Right...including murder.

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Which will lead to shortages...

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You people are just plain scary. Stop stealing from other people. Stop trying to control them and get a life.
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Stop stealing from other people. Stop trying to control them and get a life.
You people need a reality check. Using words like "stealing" doesn't have any effect on the reality that Hillary isn't the beginning of the Socialist movement in America.............that's been happening for a generation. She's the best hope for finishing the conversion. You "freedom riders" would be humerous if your "out-of-touch" state weren't so sad. Wake up and look around. Things have changed from the days of the frontier. We are more socialist today than you are willing to admit. Hillary just wants to complete the change-over so progress will be allowed to occur unimpeded.
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Stop stealing from other people. Stop trying to control them and get a life.
You people need a reality check. Using words like "stealing" doesn't have any effect on the reality that Hillary isn't the beginning of the Socialist movement in America.............that's been happening for a generation. She's the best hope for finishing the conversion. You "freedom riders" would be humerous if your "out-of-touch" state weren't so sad. Wake up and look around. Things have changed from the days of the frontier. We are more socialist today than you are willing to admit. Hillary just wants to complete the change-over so progress will be allowed to occur unimpeded.
Well heck - now there's a different kind of dream world....

What have I been telling you guys?

The Reps and Dems are both asleep - it's like, neither one of 'em has a clue anymore.

These dumb-a** politicians think their job is to keep the people "comfortable" so they don't complain too much.

I'm tellin' ya man, this stuff is a menace - some of you might not see that just "now", but you will. If you let this kinda crap go on for very much longer, you're just gonna wake up one morning and "things will have changed".

Don't trust the freakin' government. a) They're stealing you blind - Hillary just admitted that her top tax rate is gonna come in at 54 god(*)(*)(*)(*) freakin' percent - now how d'ya like them apples?

So I find myself asking myself the exact same question that I'm asking with Bushie - at what cost?

This is your money we're talking about - you know, the stuff you work for - the stuff they give you in exchange for the only thing that's truly yours, which is your time -

So don't sit there and tell me to "trust Hillary". That's BS, my friend. I trusted Bushie, and look what happened. The freakin' guy not only took my money and pissed it away, but he's trying to take my Rights too. Freakin' miserable bastid - you know, I'm very sorry, but any President who does that, is not my ally. I pay that miscreant m/f to protect my Rights - that's what I pay him for. Stupid freakin' moron.....



Aieee.... this stuff is really getting me pissed now. It's like, I'm looking around for contradictions to my hypothesis - for evidence to the contrary - and there isn't any. There isn't any.
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Well.........not quite. First of all, the oil held in reserves (under federal control) isn't paid for by tax money but by oil companies. Therefore, citizens have not paid for the reserves.
Its paid in royalities by oil companies on leases on government lands. It still belongs to the American people who are the US government - as their assests of oil.

Now, Hillary, like Bill, would open up those reserves if necessary to win the Presidency................anything necessary (remember?) toward the greater end.

Hillary has stated that she will establish a limit on profits allowed to oil companies, re-distributing instead the profit overages to development of alternative clean and renewable energy. This is the kind of leadership America needs in solving our oil crisis, healthcare, and education needs. Fairness in distribution of wealth will be a top priority.[/quote]

That will not affect the lease royalities pouring onto the reserve - only the oil corporations profits if they want to use federal lands. This royality oil as a means o payment is only good until the reserves are filled - at which time the oil corporations will have to pay directly into the federal government for the leases.

However, using that oil is like hitting OPEC with a sledge hammer, and lowers the price of gasoline, because WE THE PEOPLE can under sell the Arabs with our own oil to the oil refineries.
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Don't trust the freakin' government. a) They're stealing you blind - Hillary just admitted that her top tax rate is gonna come in at 54 god(*)(*)(*)(*) freakin' percent - now how d'ya like them apples?
If you will just start a small garden, and raise a few chickens, a cow, and hefer in your back yard, you will have the extra money to pay your income tax that you have already recieved in advance called "tax-cuts." Now if you invested your tax-cuts you should have a small nest egg to offset the raise in taxes coming for money you already received. Get it? And that is only a 7% increase in taxes to get back to fiscal responsibility so we can enjoy lower taxes with balanced budgets again. That is real patriotism!!! Apple pie!! A car in every garage! A chicken in every pot!!
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Yeah - well, another thing I find especially amusing about Hillary (NOT), is her willingness to try to bribe us with our own money.

You know, like those $5,000 baby bonds that she had to back away from -

Stupid wench - and who did she think was going to pay for that 5 grand? Why, the very people she's giving it to. Dumb and dumberer.... gee, sure, why don't we just stick 'em with the debt service too....

Yeah - and create a whole new government bureaucracy to administer the (*)(*)(*)(*) thing, and it's like sure - take my money and give it some bozo kid I don't even know - I mean, if I wanted that, I could have gone to Christian Children's Fund a long time ago. At least that way I'd get a god(*)(*)(*)(*) picture or something, and maybe even a personal letter when the kid graduates high school.

I mean, yeah - and Bushie did the same thing, right? Here, have a tax rebate - consisting of your own money. Miserable friggin'.... oh well.... look, I can sum it all up in one word:

Goddamit!



What the hell do I have to do, to get through to these idiots?

You know, and the worst part of it is, it's not you my fellow voters I need to get through to, or even my elected representatives - it's friggin' weasels like Ken Mehlman and Howard Dean - they're the ones who decide which candidates we get to choose between.

You know, something about this whole thing is starting to stink to high heaven. This is not the way America's supposed to be.
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