This administration doesn't like the answer....out they go.

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I've been informed....don't blame Bush, he's "not in control"
That must make him out of control

So......David Levin tried it and is okay.....is that what you're saying?

No fingers lost; no toes lost; no permanent scars; no permanent damage whatsoever.....right?

So, did Levin tell us that if he were a terrorist with information to share to get himself out of such a treatment......was it bad enough that he thinks he would have talked? Isn't that the point of it, after all???

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"This is a time for a national imperative not to fail in Iraq." Condoleeza Rice, January 11, 2007

Vee vill maekhe you tok....

Vee hav vayz.....

Freakin' nazis.

Debating the "technicalities" of torture.

===> I told you guys from day one, that these Neo-Con-artists were dangerous, didn't I? I told you they were a menace, didn't I?

Well, here you have direct evidence. Freakin' torture.... oh my God. Great way to represent the American People, Georgie.... ya freakin' moron.

You know, the CIA supposedly waterboarded three terrorists. Three. And you know, like, here we are debating whether we should be doing this "now and forever".

Maybe you ought to try it if you are fine with it JP. That way you can become a valid spokesperson for the administration in reference to the issue of torture. You don't have a problem with it, so go for it....No worries, you won't lose any fingers or toes.

You're telling me that your definition of torture is; Loss of extremities/permanent damage. It's obvious that you don't believe that there could possibly be mental or internal damage done....You have that "out of sight out of mind" thought process.

You are also short sighted because you don't see the damage done for the U.S. reputation by supporting torture.....in other words, we no longer have the moral upper hand.

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I've been informed....don't blame Bush, he's "not in control"
That must make him out of control

Nosqtr wrote:The neo-cons have ruined our country. Here's the problem; ignorant people that never even heard the term "neo-con" are supporting neo-con policies.

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I've been informed....don't blame Bush, he's "not in control"
That must make him out of control

So basically we should be able to do any technique that doesn't result in extreme physical pain or any permanent damage?

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I've been informed....don't blame Bush, he's "not in control"
That must make him out of control

1) There is no proof that the U.S. engages in waterboarding at the moment. I suspect we do, but there is no evidence.

2) Anyone with knowlegde of classified information is prohibited from giving an oppinion on it.

Sounds reasonable to me, what is the issue again?

Does that include hurt feelings? Please define mental damage? Isn't imprisonment mental damage? Sleep deprivation is torture now too right? What about yelling at someone, or threatening them. Harsh words could cause mental damage.

Basically, claiming that waterboarding is torture is claiming that scaring the bejesus out of someone is torture.

Scaring the bejesus out of someone is torture?

Scaring someone too much is torture. They get really scared, and that is mental damage.

Don't frighten our enemies too much, that is torture. Making someone fear for their life is torture?

I really just do not get it.

Do you honestly believe that scaring someone is torture? Or because waterboarding is being discussed a lot lately and most people agree, you agree as well?

Well, if people want to think waterboarding is torture... Don't expect me to agree, EVER.

That's my "vocabularly", guys.

Every time you hear the word "tyrant" from me, or "miscreant", or anything like that, just substitute the concept "stupid people" in there, and you'll "get" what I'm saying.
Now look at this one folks -

Still trying to argue the technicalities of torture. *PERSONAL ATTACK DELETED*
Duh..... Yeah. Duh, right?

"Yes, little jhffmn, there really is such a thing as mental durress, and if you don't believe that, why don't you just go out and try it?"

Jeez.....


It CAN be torture, depending on the way it's done.

Freakin' morons. See what I mean, guys? The American People don't understand war anymore. 99% of us are just blowing smoke out of our backsides, with statements like the above. "How is torture related to mental damage?" I mean, COME ON. What kind of a freakin' idiot to you have to be not to understand that linkage? That would be exactly like Ahmedinejad claiming there are "no gays in Iran".

That much I can see.

I can make you agree, jhffmn. I can do it in under five minutes. All I have to do, is subject you to the processs once, and you will agree.

That is the point, isn't it? Anyone who's ever done this, says it's a torture technique. Everyone except Bushie, that is, and that's 'cause he's never done it.
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