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    (Reuters) - Supporters of legalizing marijuana for recreational use have submitted enough signatures to put the matter to voters in Washington state in a bold move that, if successful, could put Olympia on a collision course with the federal government.

    The group New Approach Washington submitted nearly 278,000 valid signatures for the measure, more than required to put it on the November ballot, David Ammons, a spokesman for the Washington Secretary of State's office, said in a statement.

    The move comes as federal prosecutors have sought to crank up pressure on several mostly western states, including Washington, that have legalized medical marijuana even as cannibis remains classified as an illegal narcotic under federal law.

    The proposal, if approved by voters, would allow marijuana sales to people 21 and older, permit state taxes to be collected on the drug, ban pot advertising and prohibit driving under the influence of cannabis.

    Supporters of legalizing marijuana, who include acting Seattle city attorney Peter Holmes, say the federal prohibition on the drug has not curbed use and that it enriches drug cartels.

    "This is the grown-up approach to regulating a relatively harmless drug," Holmes said.

    I dont think the voters will aprove it( I live near the Capital) it seems that the pot community perfers the black market aproach instead of regulation by the state. But you never know...
    I fear not terrorist, I fear the loss of liberty.

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    Poll shows Washington voters split on legalizing marijuana

    A new Elway Research poll released Wednesday shows the softest support yet for Initiative 502, which would legalize, regulate and tax marijuana sales, with 48 percent in favor and 45 percent opposed.

    I fear not terrorist, I fear the loss of liberty.

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    Granny says, "Dat's right - California Drivers Prefer Pot Over Booze...

    California Drivers are Twice as Likely to be High Than Drunk
    Nov 21, 2012 - Study finds drivers twice as likely to have drugs than alcohol in system
    Drunk drivers are not the biggest problem on California's roads according to a new survey from the California Office of Traffic Safety. Out of 1,300 drivers who were tested in nine cities on Friday and Saturday nights, 14 percent were found to have drugs in their system, while only 7.3 percent were found with alcohol. Marijuana was slightly more prevalent than alcohol, found in 7.4 percent of drivers.

    The official line from the director of the Office of Traffic Safety is that the "results reinforce our belief that driving after consuming potentially impairing drugs is a serious and growing problem." A press release explains that drugged driving goes less frequently noticed and it's pricey to test for toxicology. But, at least in the case of marijuana, which is now legalized in some states, there have been questions as to just how dangerous driving stoned is.

    Maia Szalavitz at Time writes that "Research suggests that stoned users on the road are not as impaired as those who drink alcohol are, and there is some evidence that those who use marijuana, particularly for medical purposes, may be staying off the roads anyway." In summer 2011 the addiction and recovery website the Fix looked at the challenges involved in determining just how much marijuana makes a person impaired.

    Though Szalavitz explained that the drivers who participated were not threatened with legal action, she also points out that the new research "likely under-represents the real rate of potentially performance-impairing drug use by drivers" people who are aware of their state of intoxication probably aren't going to pull over.


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    Quote Originally Posted by waltky View Post
    Granny says, "Dat's right - California Drivers Prefer Pot Over Booze...

    California Drivers are Twice as Likely to be High Than Drunk
    Nov 21, 2012 - Study finds drivers twice as likely to have drugs than alcohol in system

    that explains the smog lol.

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    America once sang `bout flyin' lizzerds inna air in one o' dey's songs...

    Hickenlooper to create task force on Colorado marijuana legalization
    11/28/2012 - Gov. John Hickenlooper will create a task force to deal with the fallout from the state's legalization of marijuana use, possession and sales.
    Eric Brown, the governor's spokesman, said in a statement Tuesday afternoon that the yet-to-be-formed task force will work "to identify the policy, legal and procedural issues that need to be resolved related to Amendment 64." "The task force will be charged with offering suggestions for legislative and executive actions that need to be taken for the effective and efficient implementation of the amendment," Brown said.

    The task force is to include state officials, lawmakers, marijuana advocates and other "stakeholders" — likely a reference to law-enforcement, drug-treatment and community representatives. More details on the task force will be announced soon, Brown said.

    The task force will need to get down to business quickly so the state can meet the deadlines set out in Amendment 64, which legalizes use and possession of up to an ounce of marijuana for those 21 and older. It also allows for commercial marijuana sales through specially licensed stores, and the state Department of Revenue must have rules for those stores in place by July 1 and begin issuing licenses for them Jan. 1, 2014.

    That means lawmakers will have only one legislative session — the one beginning in early January — to write laws governing the new stores. And Revenue Department officials will have to hold a hearing on proposed rules for the stores sometime in the spring.

    Read more: Hickenlooper to create task force on Colorado marijuana legalization - The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/news/marij...#ixzz2DZhdgX5r
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    Deputies find alligators guarding marijuana plants after responding to shooting
    November 28, 2012 – Thurston County Sheriff's deputies found two 5-foot alligators at a marijuana grow site where a man was shot on Monday evening.
    Lieutenant Greg Elwin says deputies responded to the scene in the Scott Lake area south of Olympia when a man called 911 to say he had shot another man.

    The shooter told investigators that he fired in self defense, but investigators say they believe he actually shot the other man during a drug buy. The 30-year-old man who was shot was taken to a local hospital and was expected to recover.

    The 41-year-old alleged gunman was booked into jail for investigation of attempted murder.

    Elwin says the alligators found by deputies were likely being used to protect the drugs. The sheriff's office is working with county Animal Services to determine what will happen to the alligators.

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/28...#ixzz2DZi9Sl5D

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    Granny says dey oughta make marijuana bullets to fire atta jihadis an' goofyize `em so dey can't fight...

    Senate Committee Renews Medical Marijuana Provision in VA Bill
    Apr 15, 2016 | Senate lawmakers on Thursday once again signaled to the Veterans Affairs Department they want VA doctors able to talk to patients about use of medical marijuana.
    By a 20-10 bipartisan vote, the Senate Appropriations Committee passed an amendment to the military construction and veterans legislation allowing agency doctors to make recommendations to vets on the use of medical marijuana -- something they can't do now even in states where cannabis prescriptions are legal. "We should be doing everything we can to make life easier for our veterans," Sen. Jeff Merkley, a Democrat from Oregon, said in a statement. "Prohibiting VA doctors from talking to their patients about medical marijuana just doesn't make sense. The VA shouldn't be taking legal treatment options off the table for veterans."

    Medical marijuana is being prescribed in some states for symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder, even though its effectiveness remains questionable. The legislative amendment was sponsored by Merkley and Sen. Steve Daines, a Republican from Montana, who successfully got the same amendment through the committee in November, only to see it stripped from the bill by House lawmakers a month later. The latest language still has to be considered by the full Senate and then be sent once more to the House for approval.

    Marijuana is measured in 3.5-gram amounts and placed in cans for packaging at the Pioneer Production and Processing marijuana growing facility in Arlington, Wash.

    The VA won't comment on the lawmakers' actions on medical marijuana, but its website quotes a report by2 Marcel Bonn-Miller of the National Center for PTSD at the VA Medical Center in Palo Alto, California, and Glenna Rousseau of the VA Medical Center in White River Junction, Vermont, dismissing marijuana as useful in treating veterans. "Controlled studies have not been conducted to evaluate the safety or effectiveness of medical marijuana for PTSD," the report states. "Thus, there is no evidence at this time that marijuana is an effective treatment for PTSD. In fact, research suggests that marijuana can be harmful to individuals with PTSD."

    The federal government in 2014 approved a study on medical marijuana to be conducted by the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies, a California-based nonprofit research center. But the research hasn't yet been completed.

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    Vets Group Blasts Obama for 'Neutrality' on Proposed GI Bill Cuts
    Apr 15, 2016 | The head of the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America is criticizing President Barack Obama for his unwillingness to oppose planned cuts to the Post-9/11 GI Bill.
    Paul Rieckhoff, founder and chief executive officer of the organization, known as IAVA, on Thursday called on all lawmakers and the president to say where they stood on House legislation that will cut in half the housing allowance for students attending college on a parent's GI Bill. The move could mean a loss of anywhere from a few hundred dollars to upwards of $2,000 a month, depending on where the child attends school. "This is extremely disappointing to hear from our commander in chief," Rieckhoff told Military.com on Friday. "You cannot be neutral on a moving train. We need him to stand strong. He stood with us when we passed the GI Bill in 2008. We need him to stand with us now in defending it. "This is a no-brainer for the President," he added.

    In response to Military.com's request for the president's position on the proposed cut, White House spokeswoman Ruvin Hallie said, "We'll decline to comment on this." Rieckhoff and representatives from other veterans groups rallied on Capitol Hill with half a dozen Democrat lawmakers who already have pledged to fight the cut, among them Reps. Tammy Duckworth of Illinois, Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii and Seth Moulton of Massachusetts, all of whom are Iraq War veterans.

    The cuts in the housing allowance are being used to fund other veterans programs, including improvements to postnatal care for female veterans, expanded K-9 therapy for veterans suffering with post-traumatic stress disorder, the reauthorization of the VA work-study program and removal of the cap on VA home loan guarantees.

    But critics, including lawmakers at the event, slammed the move, saying it amounts "robbing Peter to pay Paul." None of the speakers oppose the new or expanded programs, but believe Congress should come up with the money from elsewhere. Rieckhoff said that Obama, as the grandson of a World War II veteran, knows the importance of the GI Bill. "He's always been an ally and we hope he'll be an ally again" on this, he said.


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    Not sure why they would want it legal because it's just gonna jack up the price with the taxes. It's not like it's hard to get up there. I lived in Portland and saw people smoking marijuana walking down the street and the police just telling them to throw their stash in the trash.
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    Granny says, "Dat's right - an' it'll make ya goofy - like Uncle Ferd...

    Study: Heavy Pot Users Face As Many Midlife Troubles As Those Dependent on Alcohol
    April 19, 2016 | Smoking marijuana regularly is linked to as many economic and social problems in early midlife as being dependent on alcohol, a recently published international study has found.
    The findings “show that cannabis was not safe for the long-term users tracked in our study,” University of California/Davis Associate Professor Magdalena Cerdá, the study’s lead researcher, said in a press release. “Alcohol is still a bigger problem than cannabis because alcohol use is more prevalent than cannabis use,” Cerda added. “But as the legalization of cannabis increases around the world, the economic and social burden posed by regular cannabis use could increase as well,” she said.

    Researchers found that regular cannabis smokers “ended up in a lower social class than their parents, with lower-paying, less skilled and less prestigious jobs than those who were not regular cannabis smokers." "These regular and persistent users also experienced more financial, work-related and relationship difficulties, which worsened as the number of years of regular cannabis use progressed,” according to the press release. “Regular long-term users also had more antisocial behaviors at work, such as stealing money or lying to get a job, and experienced more relationship problems, such as intimate partner violence and controlling abuse.” “Our data indicate that persistent cannabis users constitute a burden on families, communities, and national social-welfare systems. Moreover, heavy cannabis use and dependence was not associated with fewer harmful economic and social problems than was alcohol dependence.”

    The study, “Persistent Cannabis Dependence and Alcohol Dependence Represent Risks for Midlife Economic and Social Problems: A Longitudinal Cohort Study,” was published March 23 by the journal Clinical Psychological Science. It was co-authored by nine researchers from five universities, including four in the United States and one in England. The 947 study subjects were taken from a group of 1,037 members of the Dunedin Longitudinal Study, individuals born in Dunedin, New Zealand in 1972 to 1973, who have undergone assessments from the age of 5 to 38. Using the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, the study categorized their cannabis use from “never used” to “persistent dependence,” defined as use on four or more days per week.

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