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Old 11-12-2007, 04:39 PM
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The Toby Keith-like singer of the 60s Merle Haggard who wrote songs about how he hated the hippies down in San Francisco and draft card burners during the Vietnam War period has changed his conservative view and is now endorsing Hillary Clinton. This couldn't be imagine that this man would vote ever for a democrat but this time he said he is going to. He even voted for Bush in the last two election but his disgust is going to make him jump parties. He stated he is not a liberal but he know how that Texas thing works, who those oil folks are and what they wanted in Iraq.
He said that pride and confidence is brought down in this country with George W. intentions to install fear in people to keep this oil-driven war going. This is America. We're proud. We're not afraid of a bunch of terrorists. But this government is all about terror alerts and scaring us at the airports. We're changing the constitution out of fear. We're spending all our time looking up each other's dresses for weapons. Fear has became the only issue the Republican party has anymore [that sure is the truth and they are banging the war drum with it like a roaring train]. It has became "Vote for them or the terrorist will get us". And he said he hated to think about our soldiers over in Iraq fighting for a country that is slipping away {wonder if he is talking about our's or Iraq?].
This article is in the Times issue for the week of October 22, 2007. It was so interesting and was a shock to me coming from a man who wrote "if you are talking about my country then you are walking on THE FIGHTING SIDE OF ME. My gosh what in the world is going to happen next?????????
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:49 AM
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That's no surprise. Merle Haggard has been on the liberal side of things for some time. He's a has-been and is probably trying to get publicity any way he can.

Now---I would have been surprised had it been Toby Keith.
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"We must've been drunk, lord, what was we thinkin? We must have been out of our minds!" - Merle Haggard
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:35 AM
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Merle Haggard has been on the liberal side of things for some time.
I guess two years or so is a long time.

Once the country changes it's approach people like the profiteer Toby Keith will change their tune as well because they go with the wind.

Much like Sara Evans when it came out that SHE was the one who had all the affairs in her marriage - suddenly no longer a conservative darling.
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That's no surprise. Merle Haggard has been on the liberal side of things for some time. He's a has-been and is probably trying to get publicity any way he can.

Now---I would have been surprised had it been Toby Keith.

JPS-Did you see that Haggard voted for Bush in the last election which was just a little over 3 years ago and that wasn't very long ago for him to been on the liberal side for "some time" as you make it sound?
Yes I would have been surprised also if the conservative poster-boy, Toby Keith who was leaning toward a democrat because he is a war-profiteer. It is what made him famous to spout out war-marching songs for warhawks.
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Default Well, there is a no-brainer aspect to this ...

didn't St. Ronnie give MH a full pardon? Wouldn't that, if nothing else, tend to sway Merle toward being a conservative? Dunno, but it seems reasonable.

Now, the comment about Merle writing anti-hippie songs ... I seriously doubt if he would know a real hippie if he tripped over one. What hippies was he singing about? The hippies of San Francisco leading up to Apr-Sep 1967, what is known as the summer of love. You know the ones ... they were the Janice Joplin types, the wannabe beatniks that simply didn't understand there was more to the Bohemian culture than just being rejected by society and rejecting society in return. The ones that could adjust their indulgence in psychedelic rock on an equal basis with their drug consumption while imagining they were experiencing a great ceremony of coming together after never having a friend in the world.

Or was he singing about the hippies that were the product of the summer of love that ushered in the excessive drug use, the deaths in the streets, the mass arrests, police confrontations leading to racial tensions, gawk-off by the public (yes, that actually happened), the teen pregnancies, the general filth and disease that ran rampant in the streets?

I suspect he wasn't singing about any of them in particular but rather he was singing against all of them because they didn't fit within his dry-drunk, confused, god-n-country-above-all, herd-mentality mind. How I would love to ask him about his music during that time frame and it's philosophical foundation.

He deserves neither forgiveness nor thanks for rolling over at this point in time. It is way to late for that. The damage by the Bush admin has been done and there is nothing he can say or do that will change it.

He has blood on his hands.
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Migou he was singing against hippies that join mothers and fathers and everyone else on the streets hollering over and over "LBJ, LBJ, how many kids did you kill today? And Hell NO We won't GO". They were fighting in the street to end a 14 year old unwinnable war that was never going down but instead getting worse and worse and worse. People were so fakey and phoney back then trying to rationalize the reason for the war that people all started to becoming fakey themselves as like when all those Manson's hippies killed Sharon Tate then she asked them if they were going to kill her then please let her baby live because she was more than eight months along in her pregnancy. They answered her in the fakey kind of talk that people used to justify the war in Vietnam back then saying "Look, we don't care about you or your baby, we just want to kill you because we LOVE you". The word "love" was used so prevalently that it was so easy to say and make it mean anything to justify the war with and these Manson's hippies wanted to start a racial war and call it Helter Skelter. The fourteen year long war with Vietnam made the country go crazy and all kids graduating [including myself] were made irrational knowing for 14 years we lived under a war going on that was doing nothing but getting worse and worse and more and more sealed coffins coming home like a regular common occurence of the day. South Vietnam had us on it's side while North Vietnam had huge China and the USSR on it's side. There was no way we could win it but it made money go all over the place until Watergate let us all know the truth and that was when it had to end.
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"We must've been drunk, lord, what was we thinkin? We must have been out of our minds!" - Merle Haggard

Well it is too late now to undo the damage and next time don't get drunk before you go to the voting booths. This does hint somewhat on how come such a disaster has occurred, drinking does make you misjudge everything, ask Cheney if it does that when he goes hunting.
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The Toby Keith-like singer of the 60s Merle Haggard who wrote songs about how he hated the hippies down in San Francisco and draft card burners during the Vietnam War period has changed his conservative view and is now endorsing Hillary Clinton.
It amazes me how these as*-clowns can throw away everything they’ve worked for all there lives. Who was that dizzy chick thrown out of a casino and not even allowed back in to get her stuff? “Linda Ronstade“??? She wished “Michel Mooron” a happy birthday or something and didn’t know her view points were limited to her closet…


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This couldn't be imagine that this man would vote ever for a democrat but this time he said he is going to. He even voted for Bush in the last two election but his disgust is going to make him jump parties. He stated he is not a liberal but he know how that Texas thing works, who those oil folks are and what they wanted in Iraq.
Not sure what your saying, Iraqi oil goes to the U.K. and is competition against Texas oil. Our only link is buying from the Brits.
President Bush also inherited this war from the Numb-nut and his criminal wife administration (I think they were called the Clintons or something.).


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He said that pride and confidence is brought down in this country with George W. intentions to install fear in people to keep this oil-driven war going.
Sounds like he may have started watching C.N.N. or something, bummer.


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This is America. We're proud. We're not afraid of a bunch of terrorists. But this government is all about terror alerts and scaring us at the airports. We're changing the constitution out of fear. We're spending all our time looking up each other's dresses for weapons. Fear has became the only issue the Republican party has anymore.
Hmm, sounds like he’s not the only one watching C.N.N..
I submit to you that most people don’t even think about or notice it. In fact, it’s never on our minds of being in danger with president Bush in charge. The only fear plaguing America right now is that a democrat could some how get elected and bring the war back here…

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[that sure is the truth and they are banging the war drum with it like a roaring train]. It has became "Vote for them or the terrorist will get us". And he said he hated to think about our soldiers over in Iraq fighting for a country that is slipping away {wonder if he is talking about our's or Iraq?].
This article is in the Times issue for the week of October 22, 2007. It was so interesting and was a shock to me coming from a man
And he goes on like that.
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