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Old 11-16-2007, 08:11 AM
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Default WASHINGTON D.C. MARCH ON HATE CRIMES

I question hate crime laws that apply to Caucasians only, when up to 90% of interracial crime is black on white.

If one look at interracial crime as a whole, Black on White interracial crime largely outnumber White on Black interracial crime. Oddly, while "white racism", about 1700 crimes, is often used to justify Black people resentment and agressivity toward Whites, White people are not suppose to feel a thing or the slightest resentment for the ceaseless racial violence of which they are the target.

If the number of Black on White interracial crimes was roughly 1.9 millions, this means about 10 millions such crimes are affecting the White population every 5 years, 20 millions in 10 years.... Then it must be taken into account that it is not just the victim who is affected but also her family and friends. Counting a family of two parents and two children, the figure for victims or people who are affected by the ripples of Black on White Crime could be multiplied by 4; in 10 years, about 80 millions European Americans would somehow be affected by this phenomenon. It would be worth asking if the huge number of crimes done by black criminals doesn't have "some" impact on race relations in America, yet this topic is rarely mentionned and examined.

"John is white. He is married with two children. He wears a blue collar when he leaves his shabby, inner-city house to go to work. Life has been a struggle for John, but now he faces his most difficult challenge. John's neighborhood is turning black. [...]

In a 50 percent black neighborhood, there is a 37 chance that John's family will in some way be violently victimized. As the neighborhood relentlessly turns black, some whites will have to be among the last to leave. If John is unfortunate enough to be one them, he will face the following statistics: When the neighborhood is 90 percent black, John and his family will have a 96 percent chance of being victimized. Soon after that victimization will become a virtual certainty, reaching 99 percent likely when the neighborhood turns 93 percent black."






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Old 11-16-2007, 08:20 AM
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Old 11-16-2007, 08:43 AM
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Since there are no reliable statistics on interracial crime (because the race of perpetrators are not generally tracked against the race of their victims, largely because the perpetrator usually isn't known or proven at the time the crime is reported), it appears you're just making numbers up.

You're also wrong about hate crimes; they don't just involve crimes by whites against minorities.
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2005/index.html

Here's the table for 2005:
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2005/table1.htm

Anti-white incidents: 828
Anti-black incidents: 2,630

Now here's the table for crime rates by race for 2005:
http://www.ojp.gov/bjs/cvict_v.htm#race

27 out of every 1,000 blacks was the victim of a violent crime.
20 out of every 1,000 whites was the victim of a violent crime.
14 out of every 1,000 people of other races was the victim of a violent crime.

All races experienced about the same rates for assault and rape.
Blacks were 3 times as likely to be the victim of a carjacking.
49% of murder victims were white.
49% of murder victims were black.
3% of murder victims were other races.

145 out of every 1,000 blacks were the victim of a property crime.
156 out of every 1,000 whites were the victim of a property crime.

Broken down, however, that number turns into this:

BLACKS
35 of 1,000 experienced burglary
13 of 1,000 experienced car theft
97 of 1,000 experienced theft

WHITES
29 of 1,000 experienced burglary
8 of 1,000 experienced car theft
120 of 1,000 experienced theft

Now for some data on who is being arrested:
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_43.html

ARREST RATES
White: 69.8% of arrestees
Black: 27.8% of arrestees

POPULATION SHARE
White (total): 75.1%
White (non-hispanic): 69.1%
Black: 12.3%

Look at those figures and what do they show? Blacks have an outsize criminal offense rate, but the white offense rate is right in line with their population. So apparently nonwhites/nonblacks are highly law-abiding.

In addition, blacks represent a small enough slice of the population that most crime is committed by whites.

Third, you'll notice that blacks are far more likely to be the victim of a violent crime. And while whites are slightly more likely to be the victim of a property crime, it's the most mild form -- theft. Blacks are more likely to be burglarized or have their cars stolen.

Thus, it would appear that most black crime is perpetrated against other blacks, not interracially.

Now, let's see.... What data point correlates most strongly both to higher crime rates and higher victimization rates? That would be poverty. Let's check per capita income of whites and blacks....
http://www.governor.utah.gov/DEA/HTM...tateInc/11.htm

It's from 1999, but notice how overall, whites average 110.8% of median per capita income (115% when you exclude white Hispanics) while blacks average 66.9%. Asians average 101.1%.

Thus you can conclude that whites are arguably more crime-prone than they ought to be, given their economic share. But if you define white crime rates as the standard, then Asians are less crime-prone and blacks are about where you'd expect them to be.

In other words, blacks on average commit more crimes because blacks, on average, are poorer. But most such crimes are committed against other blacks, just like most white crime is committed against other whites. Race has pretty much jack-all to do with it.
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BLACK RACISM: Justice Department reports 85% of all inter-racial violence is committed by blacks against whites

The story of the "Wichita Massacre" was barely reported and went unnoticed due to the liberal agenda of the main stream media. David Horowitz reported the story of the Wichita Massacre on his web pages two years ago at the time it happened.
Outside the local Wichita press, however, virtually the only media to report this hate crime were Frontpagemagazine.com and the American Renaissance newsletter. While the federal government rushes to Los Angeles to investigate an incident in which a handcuffed youth was slammed into the hood of a car and punched by an officer, a pall of silence still blankets the horrendous racial murder of four young people whose murderers are now on trial. The difference in the responses to these two stories can hardly be attributed to anything other than the skin color of the perpetrators and the victims involved. Apparently the sexual torture and brutal executions of four promising youngsters is of no interest to the nation's moral guardians, because the victims happen to be white.

Stephen Webster's account of these events provides a revealing window on the disturbing - not to say disgusting -- state of the civil rights delusion in America. The U.S. Justice Department has reported that 85% of all inter-racial violence in America is committed by blacks against whites. But there are apparently no black hate crimes; and there is certainly no white civil rights movement to create sympathy for the victims.

Nor can there be one in the present atmosphere of racial hypocrisy, where the mere expression of concern over attacks on white people would itself make an individual a ripe target for racial witch-hunters.

Because they are black, the Wichita killers have been protected from national scrutiny and have not even been charged with a hate crime. The entire apparatus of local government in Wichita - abetted by the national press -- has worked overtime to keep the public ignorant of what happened. If the truth came out, it would threaten a national melodrama in which only blacks are victims, only blacks are persecuted and only whites are racists. Within the framework of this melodrama, the only acceptable meaning of civil rights is retribution for blacks -- retribution for any and every crime, real or imagined, ever suffered by black people however remote in the past. "Reparations" is just the nom de jour of the new civil rights package.

What would happen if, instead, we returned to the idea of individual accountability, and gave up the totalitarian fantasies of reparations and "social justice," in which oppressed classes exact retribution from their age-old oppressors? What if we returned to the real world in which individuals commit indefensible misdemeanors (Los Angeles) and monstrous crimes (Wichita)? What if we revived the idea of making the punishment fit the actual deed? Think of all the people who wouldn't know what to do with themselves if that were to happen.

The fact is that the Wichita horror is but one of many spectacular lynchings of white people by black racists, which the nation's moral watchdogs choose to ignore.

Everybody in America, for example, knows who James Byrd is, and that he was brutally murdered by three whites in Jasper Texas four years ago. Byrd's lynchers offered him a lift in their pickup truck, beat him and chained him and dragged him to his death. An entire nation was outraged and guilty. The President issued a statement, legislators wrung their hands and the media keened over the inhumanity of the act and what it portended for the country's future.

Four years later - this year in fact - a white man named Ken Tillery, hitched a ride in Jasper, Texas. He was given a lift by four black men who then murdered him to a deafening national silence. Like Byrd, Tillery was held hostage and beaten. Then he was run over and crushed to death. The copycat nature of the crime made it a natural news story. But there was none, save a modest account in the Houston Chronicle, to which nobody paid any attention. This savagery was apparently nothing. The pigments were politically incorrect. It was only some white guy, whose ancestors probably owned slaves.

We make no apologies for expressing outrage over these facts or printing the story of the Wichita slayings. We would like to see the trial of these killers reported on Peter Jennings' World News Tonight. We would like to see the story of the murders retold on 60 Minutes or 48 Hours. We would like to see Spike Lee direct a Hollywood feature or Jesse Jackson conduct a pilgrimage to Kansas to plea for racial peace.

But we know these things won't happen. To begin with, Jesse Jackson and Spike Lee don't have the moral intelligence to take these steps. Nor does Peter Jennings. We're regret that this is the case. But we are certain there will not be any bright future for race relations in this country until silences like these are broken.
Black Racism The Hate Crime That Dare Not Speak It's NameBy David Horowitz FrontPageMagazine.com

David Horowitz is the author of numerous books including an autobiography, Radical Son, which has been described as “the first great autobiography of his generation,” and which chronicles his odyssey from radical activism to the current positions he holds. Among his other books are The Politics of Bad Faith and The Art of Political War. The Art of Political War was described by White House political strategist Karl Rove as “the perfect guide to winning on the political battlefield.” Horowitz’s latest book, Uncivil Wars, was published in January this year, and chronicles his crusade against intolerance and racial McCarthyism on college campuses last spring.
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BLACK RACISM: Justice Department reports 85% of all inter-racial violence is committed by blacks against whites
Back this claim up.

Even if true, note the qualifier. If the vast majority of crime is not interracial, then you're talking about a very small subset of crimes.

But please, cite your source. Or better yet, link to the Justice Department report containing the above assertion.

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But there are apparently no black hate crimes;
An assertion already proven false in my post above.

Do you people sit around all day talking to yourselves, or do you ever actually bestir yourself to gather actual facts?
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Imagine if one demographic group in America were 33 times more prone to commit crimes than another group. How would you feel about the relatively crime-prone group? The relatively crime-free group? Wouldn’t you want to know about such differences?

But we don’t have to imagine anything. The above contrast was not a hypothetical case, but rather the statistical relationship of black to Asian crime in America, as detailed in the new report, The Color of Crime, released by the New Century Foundation, the organization that sponsors American Renaissance magazine.

* “… between 2001 and 2003, blacks were 39 times more likely to commit violent crimes against whites than the reverse, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.â€

* Between 2001 and 2003, blacks committed, on average, 15,400 black-on-white rapes per year, while whites averaged only 900 white-on-black rapes per year.

* “Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.â€

But there are five-and-one-half as many whites as blacks. If anything, the numbers should be reversed. After all, as leftists always tell us, all groups are supposed to be equally represented in all categories, for good or ill. (Well, not really. Leftists never call on the NBA and NFL to institute racial parity for white players.)

http://www.ourcivilisation.com/usa/racewar.htm


http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm#prev


http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm


http://www.ojp.gov/bjs/abstract/bvvc.htm


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But there are apparently no black hate crimes;
An assertion already proven false in my post above.


Though the law may read as it would apply to all, it is only enforced against "WHITEY".


I could not find one case that a black was charged with a hate crime, can you illustrate just one?


There are a few in this link that should have been charge with a hate crime.


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Oh oh oh oh I got one Valor this should make your day.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...alloween_.html

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Oh oh oh oh I got one Valor this should make your day.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...alloween_.html

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This is a typical event in the south and I would be quit interested to see if they will actually be convicted of a hate crime. If they are convicted it may be because Joseph Friedman is possibly Jewish. If the kid is just a white kid, the HATE CRIME will be dropped from the case.
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Since there are no reliable statistics on interracial crime (because the race of perpetrators are not generally tracked against the race of their victims, largely because the perpetrator usually isn't known or proven at the time the crime is reported), it appears you're just making numbers up.
While I was perusing the FBI unified crime reports for 2006 the other day, I could find no reference to race of perpetrator vs race of victim. I'm almost sure I remember that one could find this statistic in the FBI Reports in the past. If my memory serves, then this may be another example of non-PC stats no longer collected, or at least not revealed to the public.
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