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    Quote Originally Posted by Consmike View Post
    Exactly, I have no idea how anyone can look at this as a good thing for Obama.
    LOL.. because you have Santorum babbling like an idiot about sex outside of marriage being a sin, etc. You'd think the right would want women having better access to birth control. Less unwanted pregnancies, less abortions, bub.

    It's the 21st century! No matter anyone's personal feeling, preaching abstinence isn't going to win the presidency. Not for Sarah Palin, not for Rick Santorum.

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    Obama in his own trap!
    Would the IRS accept the excuse YOUR hard drive crashed 10 days after receiving an audit notice, so you can't supply the information they're asking for? Would they just drop it and go away? Why should they be held to any less of a standard they set for us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talon View Post
    LOL - Ya gotta love how Obama's fanboys are trying to spin this policy faceplant and retreat.

    If alienating Catholic voters is Obama's way of "setting a trap for the right", the Right can only hope that Obama will set and step into more of these traps between now and November...
    LOL... what planet do you live on?

    Big birth control backing in Fox News poll


    The Fox News Channel has featured a stream of right-thinking pundits blasting the Obama administration for infringing on “religious liberty,” but Fox’s own national poll finds top-heavy public support for offering birth control coverage in health plans.


    By a 61-34 percent margin, those surveyed this week approve of the Obama administration requiring all employee health plans to provide birth control coverage as part of health care for women.


    Sixty-seven percent of women surveyed, and 65 percent of Catholic women, supported the contraception/birth control requirement. Fifty-three percent of men surveyed endorsed birth control coverage.

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    While Fox News coverage is relentlessly critical of President Obama, the poll found the president’s prospects looking up.

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    Obama would defeat Republican Mitt Romney by a 47-42 margin were the election held today, up from 46-45 in January. The President enjoys a 48-38 percent margin over Ron Paul, leads Rick Santorum by 50-38 percent, is at 51-38 percent is 13 points ahead of Newt Gingrich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kk8 View Post
    Apparently to Valerie Jarrett it is...

    "Insurance companies won't mind paying, because they will save money in the long run because they won't have to pay for those icky babies or disgusting pregnancies"


    Ok, I added the last part....but, I'm sure that's what she was driving at.

    Do you have any idea at all what it costs an insurance company for prenatal, delivery, postnatal and new baby care as compared to the cost of a packet of BC pills every month? Or the cost of a pregnancy that has severe complications? Or caring for a woman who gets pregnant while she's taking chemo or has some other physical reason she shouldn't get pregnant?

    I really don't see what the complaints are here. There'll be fewer unwanted pregnancies, fewer dangerous, complicated pregnancies, fewer abortions, and the insurance companies will save money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaK View Post
    I really don't see what the complaints are here. There'll be fewer unwanted pregnancies, fewer dangerous, complicated pregnancies, fewer abortions, and the insurance companies will save money.
    Incredibly, even though it makes perfect sense, I don't think any conservative here will seriously respond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kk8 View Post
    Since when is Viagra given out "free of charge"....I don't believe it is. Prescription drug plans pay most of the cost for birth control pills, as well as Viagra.

    We are talking about THE GOVERNMENT giving out the pill FREE OF CHARGE with NO CO-PAY.

    And the insurance companies apparently should just pay for it, and shut up about it.

    Shouldn't the President be DEMANDING that the drug companies manufacture it for free while he's at it?

    Now....tell me sir....what the f**k right does the POTUS have to DEMAND such things? And, the bigger question is.....WHY ARE YOU OK WITH IT?

    Why are you NOT okay with it? Is anybody going to force you to take BC pills? Or are they just going to provide them to you if you WANT them?

    Which insurance companies are objecting to providing BC with no co-pays? Why do you think they'd rather pay the higher costs of pregnancy and hospital delivery? Won't this mean higher profits for them which is their main concern?

    The POTUS is fulfilling promises he made to the people who voted for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sly View Post
    LOL... what planet do you live on?

    Big birth control backing in Fox News poll


    The Fox News Channel has featured a stream of right-thinking pundits blasting the Obama administration for infringing on “religious liberty,” but Fox’s own national poll finds top-heavy public support for offering birth control coverage in health plans.


    By a 61-34 percent margin, those surveyed this week approve of the Obama administration requiring all employee health plans to provide birth control coverage as part of health care for women.


    Sixty-seven percent of women surveyed, and 65 percent of Catholic women, supported the contraception/birth control requirement. Fifty-three percent of men surveyed endorsed birth control coverage.
    Non sequitur. This topic isn't about support for the availability of birth control. It is about forcing a Church to do the bidding of a Government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesguy View Post
    I'm not a Christian but you do remember WE THE PEOPLE and our CONSTITUTION that states government shall not interfere with religious establishments. I know this must be a difficult concept for you but we DO have a Constitution and this has nothing to do with women's health, women would have the same access to birth control they always had.
    Which for a lot of women means NO ACCESS because they can't afford it - which means more unwanted pregnancies, more complicated and dangerous pregnancies for the insurance companies to pay for and more abortions.

    How does this interfere with any religious establishments? The Catholic Church isn't going to provide this important health care for women - the insurance companies are. What does the Constitution say about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluesguy View Post
    Does Viagra prevent pregnancy?

    No - it makes men able to impregnate women who don't have access to birth control.

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