Good news in Iraq is bad news for dems - Page 2

Sleepy · #11 (**permalink**) 11-23-2007, 08:19 AM

Iraq aside, what other issues do the dems have on their agenda? Give us some real answers, and tell us how each democratic presidential nominee stands on it. What can the swing voters bank on?

justabubba · #12 (**permalink**) 11-23-2007, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleepy";p=&quot

Iraq aside, what other issues do the dems have on their agenda? Give us some real answers, and tell us how each democratic presidential nominee stands on it. What can the swing voters bank on?

(near) universal health insurance

Sleepy · #13 (**permalink**) 11-23-2007, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justabubba";p=&quot

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleepy";p=&quot

Iraq aside, what other issues do the dems have on their agenda? Give us some real answers, and tell us how each democratic presidential nominee stands on it. What can the swing voters bank on?

(near) universal health insurance

And we all know Hillary is an expert on that.

Daybreaker · #14 (**permalink**) 11-23-2007, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glitch";p=&quot

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daybreaker";p=&quot

Even if you win, all you've won is more war.

But that isn't what we've seen. Saddam was a blood-thristy, war-mongering, brutal dictator. Al Qaeda in Iraq has expended much of their efforts in stirring civil unrest between the Sunnis and Shiites. By routing al Qaeda this civil unrest and the associated fighting between the two is way down. Provinces in Iraq are being turned back over to total Iraqi control. Our soldiers are starting to come home. Death in Iraq is way down. What we are winning is less death and violence.

I've been hearing that same claim about once a month for the past four years, though.

Maybe you're right. I hope you're right. I will be happy when all of this is over and we aren't feeding kids into the meatgrinder any more. They deserve better.

glitch · #15 (**permalink**) 11-23-2007, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daybreaker";p=&quot

I hope you're right.

Me too. Right now al Qaeda in Iraq is purportedly in dire straits. That is always a good thing.

BroncoBilly · #16 (**permalink**) 11-25-2007, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glitch";p=&quot

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daybreaker";p=&quot

I hope you're right.

Me too. Right now al Qaeda in Iraq is purportedly in dire straits. That is always a good thing.

Not for Bill Mahre, Keith Olbermann, or Air America, Bush bashing is how they make a living.

justabubba · #17 (**permalink**) 11-25-2007, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBilly";p=&quot

Quote:

Originally Posted by glitch";p=&quot

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daybreaker";p=&quot

I hope you're right.

Me too. Right now al Qaeda in Iraq is purportedly in dire straits. That is always a good thing.

Not for Bill Mahre, Keith Olbermann, or Air America, Bush bashing is how they make a living.

our resident kool aid drinkers approve that rush, o'reilly and coulter earn their living bashing the truth

The12thMan · #18 (**permalink**) 11-25-2007, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daybreaker";p=&quot

Give me some examples of people saying that they wanted to lose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw8ES7E2-D4

BroncoBilly · #19 (**permalink**) 11-25-2007, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daybreaker";p=&quot

Give me some examples of people saying that they wanted to lose.

I think you just get upset when you want to declare victory every five minutes and we don't go along. 'Cause we've heard you guys declare victory before. It's always premature. You start wars, you make huge messes, you get thousands upon thousands of people killed, and then you expect us to genuflect every time some heavily-armed American kid manages to kill the somewhat less heavily-armed Iraqi kid whose neighborhood you sent him to invade? Please.

Show me some results. Show me some winning. And then you will get your pat on the back. Do not accuse me of being defeatist simply because you can't come up with a compelling strategy or even motive for this war that you so desperately, deliberately, have.

Even if you win, all you've won is more war.

Show me something I can believe in. Stop trying to cover up your strategic failures by accusing me of wanting you to fail. I really, really, really want you to succeed. I need you to succeed. My economy depends on it.

You just can't.

I think it's that you don't know what success looks like. Success, my friend, is when the fighting stops. Accomplish that and you can have all the power in the world and no one will stop you. They'll cheer for you. They will greet you with the roses and candy that you inexplicably believe they will bring you as tribute after you've kicked their asses.

Show me. Make the fighting stop. Then you'll get the credit you believe you're due. Not until.

...our troop supporting democrats;

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,299374,00.html

FOX News Poll: Nearly 1 in 5 Democrats Say World Will Be Better Off if U.S. Loses War

Here's a fine example of liberal thinking, it's not about our nation winning, it's about the democrats losing, how pathetic.

http://www.commondreams.org/views07/0112-22.htm

How Republicans Win if We Lose in Iraq

BroncoBilly · #20 (**permalink**) 11-25-2007, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justabubba";p=&quot

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBilly";p=&quot

Quote:

Originally Posted by glitch";p=&quot

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daybreaker";p=&quot

I hope you're right.

Me too. Right now al Qaeda in Iraq is purportedly in dire straits. That is always a good thing.

Not for Bill Mahre, Keith Olbermann, or Air America, Bush bashing is how they make a living.

our resident kool aid drinkers approve that rush, o'reilly and coulter earn their living bashing the truth

Are you saying that America winning in Iraq would hurt Limbaugh, and the rest of conservative talk radio? This thread is about the democrats wanting the US to lose, or is it that you don't have anything positive to say about the great job our troops are doing in Iraq like the rest of the Bush bashing liberals. It's all about Bashing Bush, that's what feeds your agenda. Screw the US, beat Bush and the republicans.

BTW, don't be doing a Jones Town on us with the Koolaid you've been drinking. I know how tough it must be on all of you trying to say something positive about Iraq.

It must have broke your heart to see the Iraqis hang saddam.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode