Good news in Iraq is bad news for dems - Page 6

Sadistic-Savior · #51 (**permalink**) 11-27-2007, 02:12 PM

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Ok, so what extremes will Republicans take to regain or maintain power?

Whatever it is, it doesnt include hoping for US failure in any war.

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I believe both parties hunger for power and will do whatever they have to to acquire it. I don't believe either party has the best interest of this country as their number one priority, if you think that is incorrect tell me why.

I cant disprove an opinion. You are making assumptions I dont agree with. I dont even believe the democrats would do "ANYTHING" to maintain power.

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Me: It is also factually correct. Democrats have nothing politically to gain from a successful Iraq. They only stand to lose. So they have an incentive to want us to lose.

So does that mean their is Democrat America and a Republican America?

It would be more accurate to say that there is a "Liberal" and "Conservative" America. Conservative loyalties are to America first. Liberal loyalties are to the "international community" first.

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Me: Nope. It just means they want us to fail. We can fail without soldiers getting maimed or killed.

How so?

Forcing us to leave would not require any soldiers getting killed.

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You: Does it mean that Democrats want to see America lose this war?

Me: Yes. Definitely.

So all Democrats in the House and Senate should be tried for treason shouldn't they?

As far as I know, the opinion of Sadistic-Savior is insufficient evidence to convict someone of treason.

And even if it was, having an opinion as to the outcome you would like to see is not technically treason anyway. Only actions can be treason. Thoughts and opinions cannot be treason.

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You: Does it mean that Democrats are anti-military?

Me: Most of the time, yes. In this context? Definitely.

What do you base that on?

What I have seen from the Democrats so far in my lifetime.

superbadbrutha · #52 (**permalink**) 11-28-2007, 04:25 AM

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Ok, so what extremes will Republicans take to regain or maintain power?

Whatever it is, it doesnt include hoping for US failure in any war.

I would agree since they are usually the ones that start them. BTW I believe that had there been a Democratic president on 9/11 the outcome for war in Afghanistan would have been the same, but I doubt if we would be in Iraq.

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I believe both parties hunger for power and will do whatever they have to to acquire it. I don't believe either party has the best interest of this country as their number one priority, if you think that is incorrect tell me why.

I cant disprove an opinion. You are making assumptions I dont agree with. I dont even believe the democrats would do "ANYTHING" to maintain power.

I can respect that, but I believe either party would do anything to maintain power.

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Me: It is also factually correct. Democrats have nothing politically to gain from a successful Iraq. They only stand to lose. So they have an incentive to want us to lose.

So does that mean their is Democrat America and a Republican America?

It would be more accurate to say that there is a "Liberal" and "Conservative" America. Conservative loyalties are to America first. Liberal loyalties are to the "international community" first.

Give me a few examples of that assestment.

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Me: Nope. It just means they want us to fail. We can fail without soldiers getting maimed or killed.

How so?

Forcing us to leave would not require any soldiers getting killed.

Do they really want us to fail or do they disagree with what we are doing. The country is more for us getting out of Iraq than staying so I think fail is not really the word to use.

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You: Does it mean that Democrats want to see America lose this war?

Me: Yes. Definitely.

So all Democrats in the House and Senate should be tried for treason shouldn't they?

As far as I know, the opinion of Sadistic-Savior is insufficient evidence to convict someone of treason.

And even if it was, having an opinion as to the outcome you would like to see is not technically treason anyway. Only actions can be treason. Thoughts and opinions cannot be treason.

Well it is more than opinion and thought if they are writing policies that harm or are against America.

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You: Does it mean that Democrats are anti-military?

Me: Most of the time, yes. In this context? Definitely.

What do you base that on?

What I have seen from the Democrats so far in my lifetime.

Thats interesting because many Democrats that have been elected to office have served in America's Armed Forces. I find it hard to believe that you serve and then become against the very thing that you were a part of, because for the most part even after you are no longer active you still consider yourself a part of a brotherhood or sisterhood for the brave women that have served. On the other hand many Republicans that claim to be America's Patriots have never served, but are considered to be pro-military that doesn't make sense too me.

Are they against the military or are they just against those who are making the policies?

Is there any chance that one can be against this Iraq War and still be pro-military?

I can remember during the conflicts in Kosvo and Somalia many Republicans spoke out against President Clinton's policies in those conflicts, but they were never labeled anti-military or anti-american I just find it amazing how the rules change when the presidents change.

In years past America usually comes together in a time of war, but for some odd reason that changed during the Vietnam War and really has been pretty much the same every since.

I just hope one day this country can live up to its creed, "E.Pluribus Unum."

Peace.

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