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Thread: Dolphins deserve same rights as humans, say scientists

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenrichaed View Post
    Would you hunt rats to extinction?

    People only care about cute animals. They are hypocrites, the lot of them.
    A friend and I were just talking about "what would be good to make extinct".

    We came up with maskitos. Waying the cost of some creatures being without the food source and all the humans and animals not dealing with the bites, disease and the spread of viruses. We concluded it would be a net positive to due away with them. We were drunk though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackrook View Post
    Sometimes a guy can get so educated, he becomes real stupid.
    What about the ones that claim that their IQ is so high, but in actually is dumber than a door knob?


    Quote Originally Posted by Blackrook View Post
    If dolphins have the same "rights" as humans then we have to treat them like humans in all other respects.
    Yes as in have the right to live their lives in the ocean free of human intervention. You DO realize that we share this planet with other creatures right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackrook View Post
    A dolphin that kills another dolphin (or a human) should be tried and punished for murder, including the death penalty if appropriate.

    A dolphin should be subject to the income tax. Those dolphins who get fish for helping fishermen must pay their "fair share."

    A dolphin should be required to pay for health insurance under Obamacare.

    A dolphin should be required to serve on juries and subject to subpoenas.

    And all the rest.
    How to you ever begin to refute such nonsense?
    rstones199 - The Voice Of Reason!
    When you say 'god', which one are you referring to?

    I'm not saying let's kill all the stupid people, I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenrichaed View Post
    Would you hunt rats to extinction?

    People only care about cute animals. They are hypocrites, the lot of them.
    People only care about species they can enjoy or gain some use or benefit from, and I don't blame them. Should humans go out of their way to protect species we don't like? I'm glad we drove smallpox to extinction and I look forward to see that success repeated with numerous other viruses, bacteria, and parasites in the future.
    Aggression is always evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTeamBomber View Post
    Wow, you realize that Dolphins are actually mammals, and its been proven that they are the smartest mammals outside of humans, and that INCLUDES chimps and orangutans. They are certainly as intelligent or moreso than right wing extremists. Thats for sure.
    ^^^^ Best post in the thread so far!
    rstones199 - The Voice Of Reason!
    When you say 'god', which one are you referring to?

    I'm not saying let's kill all the stupid people, I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rstones199 View Post
    Yes as in have the right to live their lives in the ocean free of human intervention. You DO realize that we share this planet with other creatures right?
    Animals don't have rights. If they had rights, they would also have the responsibility not to violate the rights of others, which means we could fine a dolphin for damaging another dolphin's property.
    Aggression is always evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbsoluteVoluntarist View Post
    Animals don't have rights. If they had rights, they would also have the responsibility not to violate the rights of others, which means we could fine a dolphin for damaging another dolphin's property.
    They have the right to live.
    rstones199 - The Voice Of Reason!
    When you say 'god', which one are you referring to?

    I'm not saying let's kill all the stupid people, I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rstones199 View Post
    They have the right to live.
    No, they don't. If they had a right to live, they'd have a moral responsibility to respect the lives of others. Do you think dolphins should be arrested for murder?
    Last edited by AbsoluteVoluntarist; Feb 21 2012 at 09:50 PM.
    Aggression is always evil.

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    What boils my blood is that people who want animals to have rights have no problem with cutting up human babies into pieces and throwing them in the garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackrook View Post
    Sometimes a guy can get so educated, he becomes real stupid. If dolphins have the same "rights" as humans then we have to treat them like humans in all other respects.

    A dolphin that kills another dolphin (or a human) should be tried and punished for murder, including the death penalty if appropriate.

    A dolphin should be subject to the income tax. Those dolphins who get fish for helping fishermen must pay their "fair share."

    A dolphin should be required to pay for health insurance under Obamacare.

    A dolphin should be required to serve on juries and subject to subpoenas.

    And all the rest.
    That's not what it says at all:

    Recognising their rights would mean an end to whaling and their captivity, or their use in entertainment.
    Your article says they would be treated as NON HUMAN PERSONS. All it means is that it will put an end to whaling and using them in entertainment.

    Pretty far out idea and I don't think it will be accepted, but whaling needs to stop, for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackrook View Post
    What boils my blood is that people who want animals to have rights have no problem with cutting up human babies into pieces and throwing them in the garbage.
    Yes, and twins with 'Twin to Twin Tranfusion Syndrome' should be monitered because if one twin steals all the blood and oxygen, causing the death of the other twin, the remaining twin must be charged with murder - as per your own argument:

    A dolphin that kills another dolphin (or a human) should be tried and punished for murder, including the death penalty if appropriate.
    Change that to fetus and you can see how ridiculous it is.
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