Thread: Ad rips Chevy Volt

Originally Posted by pocket aces

No the fallacy is the people who claim they know more about the industry than the people who work in it. If Ford had so much to gain by GM and Chrysler going into Chapter 11, why would the CEO testify in favor of the bailouts? Maybe perhaps he, as a very smart and capable CEO, has a tad bit more info than you believe you have?

The CEO of Ford would want his competition burdened with such a massive bailout plan. Ford has taken full advantage of the situation. Don't be blinded by bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

Originally Posted by Marine1

As I have several times, yes they should have let GM go under and allowed them to reorganize. BUT THEY DIDN'T. Done and over. But if they go under now, this country loses billions of dollars and puts hundreds of thousands of people out of work. Why in the hell is that so hard for people to understand?

GM has got all those pensions and debt off of them and they can now compete with all the foreign own auto companies. It doesn't do this country one bit of good to see them go under now.

No that is not what will happen. Hundreds of thousands would not be put out of work. It would be sold off and most of it would still be operated. Just without the Union contracts that exist now.
Most companies that undergo that kind of selloff are operated by the courts until their assets are sold.

Originally Posted by theunbubba

The CEO of Ford would want his competition burdened with such a massive bailout plan. Ford has taken full advantage of the situation. Don't be blinded by bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

Yeah they sure are burdened. What in the (*)(*)(*)(*) are you talking about?

GM earns its highest profit ever in 2011 with $7.6 billion; overseas losses cut 4Q profit

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...WHR_story.html

Originally Posted by Marine1

I think the Volt is over priced but if you don't like it, don't buy it. But Consumer's Report rated it the customers most satisfied car on the road. If they don't sell enough of them it will kill it's self. But you good Americans aren't helping matters any by trashing it. Your not doing GM or our country any good by boycotting GM. Your only hurting your own country. I can't believe that my fellow Republicans can be so stupid you can't see that.

It's about one car,,,,,,,,that's it! They should have made a car everybody would have wanted,,but Noooooooooooooooooo,,,they had to Bow to the Government and produced an overpriced Roman Candle!!! I would not trust any report knowing the Government may have done some arm twisting. The Government screws up enough and we do not need them using OUR money to PUSH their agenda!!!
We want lower fuel prices, not Obama political substitutes....

And as far as Republicans go we want LESS GOVERNMENT,,,NOT MORE!! They screwed up from the start [as stated], and they will keep screwing up....I do not want them NEAR ANYTHING having to do with business...

Originally Posted by Marine1

Read my post right above yours. I answered your question. What good would it do to put them out of business NOW?

So you think the right thing to do is to continue to do the wrong thing? HUH?

Originally Posted by sec

GM will not go out of business if they can contain costs, compete and operate without any taxpayer subsidy.

The fallacy you keep spewing is hundreds of thousands out of work. You make it out as if GM goes away completely (won't happen because many firms operate in chapter 11) that the demand for a product also disappears. Ford could not fill the demand with its present production rate. They would need to tool up and add employees

Chrysler and GM should have taken the bitter pill instead of giving the taxpayers the shaft.

What GM and Chrysler should have done has nothing to do what is happening TODAY. Why can't you guys see that? You boycott both of them, yes, you'll put them out of business. You'll get hunderds of thousands of employees laid off. Parts plants will go out of business. Foreign auto companies will pick up the slack which will increase our balance of trade even more in their favor. Billions of dollars in profit will leave this country. Why is that so hard for you people to understand?

Do you hate unions and Obama so freakin much that you'll try and hurt this country to get back at them? That's stupid. Just plain stupid.

The Government is giving credits to all cars that are gas/ electric, not just GM. Toyota is getting it too.

Originally Posted by Consmike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avLKi...ayer_embedded#!

This is just hilarious. Its true though....its great to know that any business can make it with unlimited financial resources and the backing of the federal government.

the Fiero was bad ass...after that, this (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) bag piece just falls apart. there's enough to criticize w/o resorting to hyper-hyperbole.

Bullions of dollars we put out in tax dollars to bail them out will be lost with no chance of ever getting back one penny. Come on people, think what the hell your doing.

Originally Posted by Marine1

The Government is giving credits to all cars that are gas/ electric, not just GM. Toyota is getting it too.

Yep. It's not only GM that is for sure.

Originally Posted by pocket aces

Yeah they sure are burdened. What in the (*)(*)(*)(*) are you talking about?

GM earns its highest profit ever in 2011 with $7.6 billion; overseas losses cut 4Q profit

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...WHR_story.html

25 billion to go too. Where's our money!