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Thread: The Medieval Warm Period – unprecedented global warming, or scientific manipulation?

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    100 years prior to that Medieval Warming, man discovered that veggies were pretty good to eat, if cooked. People all across Europe began stuffing themselves with broccoli, cabbage, Brussel sprouts, beans and cauliflower. Flatulent's high in methane filled the atmosphere causing the planet to warm up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronmatt View Post

    100 years prior to that Medieval Warming, man discovered that veggies were pretty good to eat, if cooked. People all across Europe began stuffing themselves with broccoli, cabbage, Brussel sprouts, beans and cauliflower. Flatulent's high in methane filled the atmosphere causing the planet to warm up.
    Are you aware that methane is a much more powerful greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide? Methane is 25X as effective in increasing the earth's global temperature as is carbon dioxide.

    You laugh, but as the world's population continues to explode, the third world countries will have to raise more and more farm animals and provide many more rice patties to feed their burgeoning populations. By the way, farm animals and rice patties are notorious sources of copious amounts of methane gas. By the way, the world now contains 7 billion people. Most of them are uneducated and practice primitive religions that encourage them to bring more people into the world!
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    Quote Originally Posted by three_lions View Post

    The Medieval Warm Period is an established fact among scientists, as is the Little Ice Age. Both of these climate cycles dramatically changed Europe. Before the Little Ice Age, England produced quality wine that was in demand throughout Europe.
    These discussions were very good.

    Glaciers were smaller than today

    Also the global retreat of glaciers that occurred in the period between about 900 to 1300 [2] speaks for the existence of the Medieval Warm Period. An interesting detail is that many glaciers pulling back since 1850 reveal plant remnants from the Middle Ages, which is a clear proof that the extent of the glaciers at that time was lower than today [3].

    Furthermore, historical traditions show evidence of unusual warmth at this time. Years around 1180 brought the warmest winter decade ever known. In January 1186/87, the trees were in bloom near Strasbourg. And even earlier you come across a longer heat phase, roughly between 1021 and 1040. The summer of 1130 was so dry that you could wade through the river Rhine. In 1135, the Danube flow was so low that people could cross it on foot. This fact has been exploited to create foundation stones for the bridge in Regensburg this year [4].

    Clear evidence of the warm phase of the Middle Ages can also be found in the limits of crop cultivation. The treeline in the Alps climbed to 2000 meters, higher than current levels are [5]. Winery was possible in Germany at the Rhine and Mosel up to 200 meters above the present limits, in Pomerania, East Prussia, England and southern Scotland, and in southern Norway, therefore, much farther north than is the case today [6].

    On the basis of pollen record there is evidence that during the Middle Ages, right up to Trondheim in Norway, wheat was grown and until nearly the 70th parallel/latitude barley was cultivated[4]. In many parts of the UK arable land reached heights that were never reached again later.

    Also in Asia historical sources report that the margin of cultivation of citrus fruits was never as far north as in the 13th century. Accordingly, it must have been warmer at the time about 1 ° C than today [7].
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    The way it is going in Europe, those folk need all the warmth they can get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherp View Post

    The way it is going in Europe, those folk need all the warmth they can get.
    Ha-Ha!

    Actually, many scientists now believe the earth's gradual global heating phase has stopped, and now it is entering a global cooling phase for the next 50-75 years.

    Much like the Medieval Warm Period followed immediately later by the Little Ice Age.

    By the way, was “anthropogenic" global warming responsible for when we entered the Medieval Warm Period, and later, when we began to warm after the Little Ice Age?

    The global "alarmists" will not answer these questions!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzerkampfwagen View Post

    Answer me this.

    Is it impossible to murder someone just because the majority of people don't die from murder?
    I don't know.

    Why don't you tell us.

    We will await your answer.
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    Wouldn't our cooking fires have released too much carbon by now after a million years or so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonGlock26 View Post

    Wouldn't our cooking fires have released too much carbon by now after a million years or so?

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    Yeah, you would think so!

    And what about all the trees and vegetation that was burned when the third world nations cleared the rain forests in South America and the thick forests in Central and Costal Africa.

    All of this carbon that was released into the earth's environment by 7 billion people must have raised our global temperature by at least several degrees!

    Wow! A global temperature increase of 0.51 deg-C in 50 years. This increase is truly remarkable!

    It is clearly the fault of the third world nations that cleared and burned the rain forests in South America and the thick forests in Central and Costal Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Cessna View Post
    Are you aware that methane is a much more powerful greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide? Methane is 25X as effective in increasing the earth's global temperature as is carbon dioxide.

    You laugh, but as the world's population continues to explode, the third world countries will have to raise more and more farm animals and provide many more rice patties to feed their burgeoning populations. By the way, farm animals and rice patties are notorious sources of copious amounts of methane gas. By the way, the world now contains 7 billion people. Most of them are uneducated and practice primitive religions that encourage them to bring more people into the world!
    Like catholics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snakestretcher View Post

    Like catholics?
    Most Catholics these days practice birth control.

    More like devout Muslims
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