Thread: 9th Circuit Court of Appeals Successfully Petitioned to Re-hear Prop. 8 Ruling

Originally Posted by texmaster

LOL As usual that makes zero sense. Which is why you are on ignore

Yet you are responding

I looked for the OP article by googling and it was difficult to find. By happy coincidence I stumbled upon a newspaper clipping in some packing material of a parcel I'd just received and found the article printed on it, then googled that specific newspaper and found it. Even still the article was on the backside of an inner leaf of that newspaper.

I wonder why this isn't making the MSM cover pages? It sure did when it was a "win" [they thought] for gay-advocates when the tiny 9th circuit group upheld a minority's ability to usurp millions of CA voters previously. Prop 8 still stands firm. That's big news! But not a word you hear about it? Odd...seems to me like gay-advocates should be boiling mad and harping all over it. But instead you hear a calculated silence. It's as if their strategy is to just not talk about their real and stinging defeats...in case they might catch on and become a trend nationwide. "Fake it till you make it". I've heard that strategy before and it often works. But not this time...

Originally Posted by Silhouette

I wonder why this isn't making the MSM cover pages? It sure did when it was a "win" [they thought] for gay-advocates when the tiny 9th circuit group upheld a minority's ability to usurp millions of CA voters previously. Prop 8 still stands firm. That's big news! But not a word you hear about it? Odd...seems to me like gay-advocates should be boiling mad and harping all over it.

It's just standard appeals procedure. There's no need to go all "daytime soap opera" about it.

The 9th may not even agree to hear it "en banc" if they look at the case and consider the merits as discussed to date. In fact the dissenting opinion was so weak that I think they will have a tough time deciding if there's enough substance in there to warrant a re-hearing if that's all they have to hang on to. That's an awful lot of resources to waste if the outcome's more than reasonably predictable.

Originally Posted by rstones199

Which has nothing to do with equal rights, which makes it nothing more than a smoke screen. Whats worse is, you and the Mayo Clinic do not understand what Pedophilia is to begi with.



A gay man cannot marry a gay man. A lesbian cannot marry a lesbian.

The only special privilege right now is that heterosexuals get he 1400 rights that come with marriage and that is wrong, per the 14th amendment.

A non-gay man ALSO cannot marry another man; an non-gay woman cannot marry another woman.

A dog lover cannot marry his/her collie, regardless of gender.

Same rules for everyone.

You lose again...per usual. There is no Constitutional right to be gay, or married.

Originally Posted by rstones199

Yet you are responding

For the same reason insane asylums have those tiny windows on the doors. You peek in every now and then just to see what the inmates are up to. Then you're reminded why they are there.

Originally Posted by Grokmaster

And the MAYO clinic found gay males more likely to commit pedophilia than no gays. Sorry, once again...let me reiterate:

Quote:
Mayo Clinic 2007

....Individuals who engage in homosexual pedophilia were more likely to have been abused than individuals
who engage in heterosexual pedophilia.24...the “abused abusers
phenomena” occurs: identification with the aggressor,
in which the abused child is trying to gain a new
identity by becoming the abuser; an imprinted sexual
arousal pattern established by early abuse; early abuse
leading to hypersexual behavior; or a form of social learning took place.23,24,46

Got it, yet?

Sadly for you and Silhouette, who constantly repeat this quote, it DOES NOT SAY what you SAY it says! But there is nothing new about the misuse of credible sources for homophobia bigoted propaganda goals.

Its DESCRIBING particular pedophiles who abuse same sex children, it is in NO WAY saying there is MORE of them!



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Originally Posted by fiddlerdave

Sadly for you and Silhouette, who constantly repeat this quote, it DOES NOT SAY what you SAY it says! But there is nothing new about the misuse of credible sources for homophobia bigoted propaganda goals.

Its DESCRIBING particular pedophiles who abuse same sex children, it is in NO WAY saying there is MORE of them!



This does not mean what you think it means!

It sayas EXACTLY THAT, and your attempts to pretend it doesn't to convince those, who like yourself, HAVE NOT EVEN READ IT, are typical LEftninny Bullcrap, which is the culture of the factually ignorant.

It means EXACTLY what it says:

Mayo Clinic 2007

....Individuals who engage in homosexual pedophilia were more likely to have been abused than individuals
who engage in heterosexual pedophilia.24...the “abused abusers
phenomena” occurs: identification with the aggressor,
in which the abused child is trying to gain a new
identity by becoming the abuser; an imprinted sexual
arousal pattern established by early abuse; early abuse
leading to hypersexual behavior; or a form of social learning took place.23,24,46

http://www.drrichardhall.com/Articles/pedophiles.pdf


Learn to comprehend what you read...

Originally Posted by texmaster

For the same reason insane asylums have those tiny windows on the doors. You peek in every now and then just to see what the inmates are up to. Then you're reminded why they are there.

40 years ago, who knows what those patients were doing?

Since the 1970s, the consensus of the behavioral and social sciences and the health and mental health professions has moved to the belief that homosexuality is a normal variation of human sexual orientation, while there remain those who maintain that it is a disorder.[2] In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder. The American Psychological Association Council of Representatives followed in 1975.[3] Consequently, while some still believe homosexuality is a mental disorder, the current research and clinical literature now only demonstrate that same-sex sexual and romantic attractions, feelings, and behaviors are normal and positive variations of human sexuality, reflecting the official positions of the American Psychiatric Association and the American Psychological Association.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosex...and_psychology

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

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Originally Posted by Grokmaster

It sayas EXACTLY THAT, and your attempts to pretend it doesn't to convince those, who like yourself, HAVE NOT EVEN READ IT, are typical LEftninny Bullcrap, which is the culture of the factually ignorant.

It means EXACTLY what it says:

Learn to comprehend what you read...

What it says is THIS:

Individuals who engage in homosexual pedophilia were more likely to have been abused than individuals
who engage in heterosexual pedophilia

It doesn't say there are MORE of them, it doesn't say anyone is more likely TO ABUSE...

It doesn't say ANYTHING the two of you have claimed it said.

No matter HOW BIG you make the words!

Originally Posted by texmaster

For the same reason insane asylums have those tiny windows on the doors. You peek in every now and then just to see what the inmates are up to. Then you're reminded why they are there.

The sick cruelty of the Right Wing view of how the punished ALWAYS DESERVED to be punished!

ANYONE who was locked up in the old style insane asylums BECAME crazy, regardless of their state when they were committed.

Between the rape, abuse, cruelty, isolation, the other inmates and decades of isolation, NOBODY who went in stayed sane.

But plenty of people like Texmaster constantly peered in the little windows to gloat and pat themselves on the back for their fine "discernment" of catching anyone who was "different" and thus a "danger" to "decent society".