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Thread: Santorum: Obama is ‘a snob’ because he wants ‘everybody in America to go to college’

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar View Post
    Are you Guys F'ing dense?

    IF A PERSON; INDIVIDUAL, AMERICAN ... Freely Chooses, by their own Free Will ... to Go to COLLEGE ... THEN The United States of America wants to make sure THEY have the OPPORTUNITY to go to College.

    I can see why this is so hard to for idiots to understand ... maybe if they took some remedial reading they would be able to comprehend this concept without getting a headache.

    Personally ... if Republicans want their children to NOT have OPPORTUNITIES for College ... I couldn't care less.
    I see you are using the term "opportunity" to mean free college tuition to be paid for by Obama.

    But what opportunity does a high school dropout have who can barely read and write thanks to the incompetent public school teachers?

    And if Obama throws billions of free money at the higher education system will not the greedy professors just raise their prices and leave the poor Obama voter right where they started?

    I think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac-7 View Post
    I see you are using the term "opportunity" to mean free college tuition to be paid for by Obama.

    But what opportunity does a high school dropout have who can barely read and write thanks to the incompetent public school teachers?

    And if Obama throws billions of free money at the higher education system will not the greedy professors just raise their prices and leave the poor Obama voter right where they started?

    I think so.
    Ok I can see this is sailing way over the heads of Santorum supporters ....

    On what planet do you think a High School Drop-out gets to take an entrance exam for College?
    "PAY ATTENTION STUPID! They're not coming for your guns, they're coming for your Social Security!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar View Post

    On what planet do you think a High School Drop-out gets to take an entrance exam for College?
    Not the planet Earth.

    Chances are that guy is not going to college even if Obama becomes Dear Leader for life.

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    To be honest with you, extended education is the logical answer to our continuing lack of skills problem, and if it's paid for by the state I don't see it as a bad thing. This is not what Obama advocated though, he merely advocated for the ability of everyone to get advanced education. My thoughts are that if a person can show aptitude toward certain studies his or her path will be made easier by grants, given a regular revue for responsibility these grants could take a good student as far as they would go providing the nation with a homemade pool of resources. This is what China and India do and I do not believe that our citizens are any less capable that theirs--do you? I would agree that our education system needs to be overhauled but that is another thread. I guess what it comes down to is this, do you believe in the American people or not? Democrats do, the GOP don't.
    "Againsed stupidity, the Gods themselves contend in vain." F. von Schilling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar View Post
    So what exactly is Rick Santorum's problem with the POTUS suggesting that Americans should strive to be the best they can be and Educate themselves.

    What exactly is there to be afraid of from and Educated American Citizenry ...? If Advance Education was good enough for Rick Santorum, why is it a stretch for anyone else?

    What is he afraid of?
    Santorum also whined about how religious people enter college and leave it not believing anymore.

    I would think thats its biggest gripe with education: it actually provides knowledge .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac-7 View Post
    Not the planet Earth.

    Chances are that guy is not going to college even if Obama becomes Dear Leader for life.
    Hey still making up BS what obama said I see? Never get tired of that? Already found a quote from obama where he said such a thing even remotly close?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhffmn View Post
    I do know software engineers with no advanced training. However I stand by my statement that most higher education is a waste of time, money, and energy because most higher education is spent in areas that do not translate into jobs and nothing you've said addresses that statement.



    And yet, neither of those two describe my position which is that most higher education is a waste of time. If you want my opinion on Obama's statement, everyone already can go to college. He's wasted enough money, he needs to go home and keep his mouth shut.

    It's not that hard to pay your own way through school, I did it. People need to nut up. The real crisis right now is that we are graduating millions with thousands in student debt with no marketable skills to pay it back.
    No, you're wrong. To disagree with Obama, you would have to contend that:

    College, Vocational Schools, OJT for manufacturing and Apprenticeships are ALL a waste of time. Because THAT is what he actually said.
    So Yes or No: Is that your position?

    I'm anticipating a dodge here but who knows?

    Only a fool would believe the Democrats are right about everything or to blame for everything. Only a fool would believe the Republicans are right about everything or to blame for everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichT2705 View Post
    I'm not a big Santorum fan.

    He does touch upon a good point on this though, College is not always the answer for everyone. We are always going to need skilled tradesmen who aren't going to come from a traditional College.

    This "college for everyone" mantra sounds good on TV, but it seems like trying to fit everyone into the same sized shoe, and it's just not going to fit.
    I agree that not everyone is cut out for or would benefit from a college education, but I also disagree with Santorum's assessment that Obama wanting to ensure everyone has the opportunity for a college education is somehow "snobbish".
    I support neither the Republicans nor the Democrats as I see supporting either as supporting the maintaining of the status quo.

    I am pro-America, pro-working class, pro-family, and pro-human. By pro-America, I mean pro constitutional democracy with a republican form of representative government based on secular human ideals of individual liberty and freedom.

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    When did Obama actually say "Everyone should go to college".

    I've never heard him, or read of him saying this. Politifact seems to agree.
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ld-go-college/

    If he never said this... How can he be the snob Santorum implied?

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    Fringe right winger look like fools defending Santorum. Conservatives have become an embarrassment and they wonder why people call them ignorant.
    I’m happy that you're so appalled
    Don't stand for anything at all
    Just listen to your whining, accusations
    Your petty provincialism

    And I don't think I wanna be subject to your morality

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