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Old 12-12-2007, 09:51 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pfwY2TNehw

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Summing up every single thing we talk about or argue about here and putting it in it s proper perspective.
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"Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there-on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."
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Old 12-12-2007, 10:09 PM
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Default Coool...

That's a very good point, and I try to think about that when I discuss politics.

Which, by the way this speech (at least the beginning) reminds me of the half-assed version Gore made in "An Inconvenient Truth."

But very cool.
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...man keeps doing the same thing over and over expecting different results, and that is the truest form of insanity.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pfwY2TNehw

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Summing up every single thing we talk about or argue about here and putting it in it s proper perspective.
(watch it all or you'll miss the best parts)


"Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there-on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.

The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds.

Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.

The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.

It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."
carl sagan died 11 years ago, so we know this was not a recent quote. and i see no relevance to any particular current event. so why is this in the current events forum?
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It’s a conspiracy, were trying to tick you off…
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It’s a conspiracy, were trying to tick you off…
Great thread.
so then you recommend that this belongs in the conspiracy section?
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Excellent thread. Any by the way, this has everything to do with current events.

It doesn't matter who we are, this is a universal message.

Most of us, even through disagreement with others, are trying to do the right thing for the world. We just have different and conflicting ideas of how to do it. That's what makes free thought so important- to have different ideas to pull from instead of one idea pounded into the heads of many.
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Excellent thread. Any by the way, this has everything to do with current events.

It doesn't matter who we are, this is a universal message.

Most of us, even through disagreement with others, are trying to do the right thing for the world. We just have different and conflicting ideas of how to do it. That's what makes free thought so important- to have different ideas to pull from instead of one idea pounded into the heads of many.
please let us know what current event(s) sagan was discussing here, before dying in december 1997
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Very well written (and edited) piece,
Thanks for the link.
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