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Old 07-13-2004, 11:11 AM
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Default I think you missd the point

I'm not particularly vexed that I got pulled in to the secondary inspection. It seemed more than a trifle absurd given my age etc. but oh well. What I think IS a very big problem is that I get detained/questioned on my way out of the country. This is entirely new, and it wasn't happening to me only. American folks were getting pulled over and questioned on their way out of the country. If you can't see how that is an egregious intrusion into the affairs of your own citizens and into the affairs of those who come to visit, then you really do have blinders on.
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Old 07-13-2004, 11:16 AM
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Default Did you come to the USA for the healthcare?

If you do not enjoy your visits here, then why do you come?
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Old 07-13-2004, 11:43 AM
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Default Let's try Again

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If you do not enjoy your visits here, then why do you come?
Maybe you dont' get it either. I'll spell it out, ignoring all the inane responses, all the invitations to stay the hell out etc. None of them address the issue at hand, anyways.

If my government stopped me to question me as I attempted to exit my country, I would be outraged!

FULL STOP

It is none of their (*)(*)(*)(*) business where I'm going, or when I'm coming back. I live in a free country. I am free to come and go as I please. The only other place I know of where this kind of thing occurrs would be a commnist dictatorship, and those are getting pretty hard to find these days.

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Your government is stopping your citizens questioning them as they leave your country! I find this unbelievable!

Apparently this doesn't concern many people here. Sorry to have bothered you. I now return you to your regularly scheduled nap.
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Old 07-13-2004, 11:47 AM
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Default Hardly a new thing.

I've been to Canada several times to go to races in Toronto and Montreal over the years.

Sometimes I've been stopped, sometimes I haven't. This is nothing new.

Find something else to complain about huh?
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Old 07-13-2004, 11:55 AM
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Default Hav you been?

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Find something else to complain about huh?
Of course you will be stopped by Canadian government officials as you try to enter Canada. That is understood and accepted as right and proper.

Have you been stopped by your own government while attempting to leave your own country?
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Old 07-13-2004, 12:03 PM
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Why do I have to question everything my government does? I have no idea why they questioned you on the way out of my country & I really do not care. It does not mean I am napping, it just means I have a different level of priorities than yourself.

Since I am not an expert on national security or border control, then its safe to say they could be doing a lot of sensible things that are for my safety, but not obvious to me or the average Canadian observer.

I know I am not the first person to tell you this, but why don't you stay in Canada a little more and avoid all of this unpleasantness?
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Old 07-13-2004, 12:08 PM
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Default I didn't think I'd ever see the day

Americans giving carte blanche to their government to intrude on their personal affairs, and no one much caring.
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Old 07-13-2004, 12:19 PM
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Default I don't ask them why they spend so much time searching...

... the 85 year old woman of European descent at the airport either, but that does not mean I am giving all of my civil liberties to the government.

Until you can give me some sinister reason for their searching you as you leave the USA, I really have a hard time believing I should be upset.

Why is it that you need no proof of evil intent by my government to make such a negative suggestion, but you expect me to prove my government is not being evil as some justification for why I am not "napping"?

To me it seems like you are pissed off because you were inconvenienced for some reason you do not understand and you want someone to vent with about it.
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Old 07-13-2004, 12:21 PM
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Default "Probable Cause", the 4th amendment...

..you know, they should have a reason, not just....you happened to be next in line....
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Old 07-13-2004, 12:26 PM
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Default If it keeps people safer

Then I have no problem with random searches at the airport. If you do not want them in Britain, then by all means please vote for someone who advocates your postion.
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