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    Quote Originally Posted by BestViewedWithCable View Post
    Who cares about Nixon, that was 50 years ago.....

    Fill us in on how, ObamaCare is not the socialization of HealthCare, where the government controls its means of production....

    Tell us that....
    From a CONSERVATIVE source:

    Republican Socialism

    Posted by Doug Bandow on 10/27/10 10:34 AM


    Republicans are against government spending. Except when they are for it.

    Justin Logan of the Cato Institute recently made this point:

    There's been a lot of talk on the right in recent months about President Obama's "socialist" policies. While much of that talk seems overheated, so does the furious pushback from the left. Would President Obama's domestic policies really be so out of step in what in Europe would be called a "Social Democratic" party? I don't think so. But for understandable Hartzian reasons, lots of American liberals seem to get squeamish about allegations of socialism.

    However, Republicans may want to examine the plank in their own eyes before casting aspersions on the one in the eyes of Democrats. Military Keynesianism has long been a centerpiece in the Republican platform, and it still is.

    If government spending inefficiently diverts money from the productive private sector, it does so whether the end result is public housing or advanced submarines. The latter may be necessary for America's defense, but then that is the reason, and the only reason, to spend money on the military. Not because building unnecessary tanks "creates jobs."

    The Tea Party movement can do much to improve American politics. One of its most important tasks is simply to hold both major parties to account for their inconsistencies and hypocrisies. And "military Keynesianism" is a good place to start.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BestViewedWithCable View Post
    Contrary to belief of the left handed, Lies are not solutions.
    Obama is the master of spin, but he needs the help of the MSM to pull it off. If he was a christian he could thank god for them, but since he is not, he must be convinced that he is clever. Only the truly stupid will vote for his incompetent clueless ass this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Never Left View Post
    I have often suspected that you really have no idea what you are talking about. My suspitions have been replaced by certainty.
    Well, coming from you, Neverthink, that is a testimonial!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iolo View Post
    Well, coming from you, Neverthink, that is a testimonial!
    Yeah, whatever. You got nothing. These is the last few keystrokes I'll waste on making a response...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Never Left View Post
    Yeah, whatever. You got nothing. These is the last few keystrokes I'll waste on making a response...
    Oh Super! Are they taking you away tonight or tomorrow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BestViewedWithCable View Post
    But he has...

    ObamaCare is a clear declaration of socialism.

    ObamaCare nationalizes Health Care and controls its means of production. Only a liar would claim differently.
    Obamacare doesn't nationalize healthcare. We don't have government owned healthcare besides the VA. It's all still privatly owned.

    The government doesn't control the means of production at hospitals, facilities, or provider offices. Even if we had a single payor system...the government wouldn't own the hospitals...they'd just be paying the bills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talon View Post
    LOL - Were you expecting an announcement?

    Why do you think New Left Socialists refer to themselves as "progressives"?

    Connect the dots...
    Obama hasn't said he wants socialism.

    Obama hasn't proposed socialism.

    Yet righties seem to think he wants it.

    Then they predict he will implement socialism.

    This whole thing about socialism begins and ends in the minds of anti Obama Republicans
    You don't have to be straight to shoot straight...Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwater View Post
    Obama hasn't said he wants socialism.

    Obama hasn't proposed socialism.

    Yet righties seem to think he wants it.

    Then they predict he will implement socialism.

    This whole thing about socialism begins and ends in the minds of anti Obama Republicans
    To use the word 'mind' loosely!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BestViewedWithCable View Post
    ...And Yes, Barack Obama is a Marxist

    Itís been four years and the mainstream media still refuses to address the fact that Barack Obama is a Marxist. In fact using that word gets you branded as a crazy (guilty but not on this issue) and someone who uses divisive "tone.

    Some who brand Obama Marxist use as their evidence his policies such as the takeover of the domestic auto business, Obamacare, "redistribution of income" etc. Others examine his associations, from Frank Marshall Davis and Bill Ayers to people he hired such as Van Jones and Rev. Jim Wallis. While valid, the examples above are purely circumstantial.

    I use a simpler and more direct method of proving my case. When the President was running for the Illinois State Senate, not only did he run with the endorsement of a local socialist organization, but also he signed a contract with one of them, The New Party. The party was a Marxist Political coalition. This was not guilt by association thing. Senator Obama sought out their nomination. He was successful in obtaining that endorsement which required that he sign a contract with the group.


    The proof is extensive and at the link:

    Leftys please list your excuses for hiding Obamas communist past.....
    Can you do the left a favor? The right wing has been pulling the communist/socialist/marxist card for the last 80 to possibly 110 years. It's getting old now, and it doesn't work. Can you think of something new?
    "Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it."- American Philosopher George Santayana

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwater View Post
    Obamacare doesn't nationalize healthcare. We don't have government owned healthcare besides the VA. It's all still privatly owned.

    The government doesn't control the means of production at hospitals, facilities, or provider offices. Even if we had a single payor system...the government wouldn't own the hospitals...they'd just be paying the bills.
    Here's the deal Goldie, what it does is mandate coverage, reduce reimbursment, forces consolidation of services i.e. less competition, and there is "commision" that assesses charges and viability and cost effectiveness of care i.e. "death panels". And the federal plan takes away from the states the ability to form their own care infrastructure, which is where it belongs. The 10th amendment irradicates this loser of a bill. But a supreme court that will call corporations a person will do anything. I hve no confidence.

    In my town alone, there have been to closing of at least seven private clinics and specuialty care clinics alone, and there will be more at the end of the year because of Soetorocare.

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