Seriously, what in the hell is wrong with these people?


You have GOT to be kidding. Germans no longer have the right to make fun of our politicians after this.


Far be it for me to defend Scientology. It is probably the single most retarded religion ever conceived. I take the Church of Elvis more seriously than Scientologists.

But holy crap...what is the poijnt of banning them?


God, that place is a liberal paradise now. Its like they are going out of their way to support every single stereotype I have of them.

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there's a massive scientology church in Berlin.

at least they havn't banned Christmas.

I must admit, I don't understand this mentality.

The Germans (and Austrians, and a few others if my information is correct), have this kinda strange "mind-set" in their politics, where they're actually scared of ideas.

You know, "radical ideas" and the like.

There is some historical precedent, for "ideas" like that, catching on, yes?

So, it seems to me, that they're trying to address that concept, by trying to "prevent the ideas from catching on".

Doesn't that strike you as kinda wrong-headed?

For the same reason that "legislating morality" is wrong-headed?

So, you know, they're not gonna regulate your "belief" ('cause they can't), but they're just "not gonna let you talk about it".

And then, they're not gonna let you "get organized" about it.

I mean, isn't this the same way China deals with Christianity?

Am I missing something?

"For the Greater Good" I guess is their motto.

It was interesting, when I was in Amster(*)(*)(*)(*) at the Anne Frank House, they have this very interesting interactive study room where you watch these videos dealing with current issues. Everyone gets a little voting remote and then you decide on which side of the issue you are on. After everyone votes the percentages of the votes are displayed on a big screen.

One was the neo-nazi organizations in Europe and their rights to free speech, and out of a group of I think about 75 people, I was the only one who thought Neo-nazis should have a right to free speech. Granted I was in the Anne Frank house and the location might have provided some bias to the voting against neo-nazis, but I thought it was very intesting that out of all the people there, they were all willing to limit free speech if they thought it was wrong.

Either way, I don't think Germany will ban a religion, that's too totalitarian of them, even if it is one of the stupidest religions I have ever seen. It seems like the AA caught onto a story that was pretty sensational but lacks any real backing by the people or the government.

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I can't think of any good reasons to ban a religion. Even if some organized church were up to some kind of mischief, the religion itself isn't really to blame, is it? Protestants and Catholics alike put flouride in the drinking water, is what I'm saying.

Yeah - I don't know what the Scientologists are like in Europe, but if they're anything like they are over here, they're not really interested in "political power", are they?

I mean, it seems to me, it's a "different" kind of power they're after.

You know, their people don't really run for office a lot, like the Mormons do, or anything like that. There's no "drive" to be in politics, like there is in the Jewish community, or among the black or latinos or like that.

At least, I haven't "perceived" any, so far, if there is I'd be very curious to know about it.

So I mean, if I were the German government, I wouldn't really consider them "politically" dangerous ('course, I might use that excuse, but that wouldn't really be the reality, you think?) -

The only thing I can think of, is that their beliefs are a little kooky once you get up to Level 42 or whatever, and I'm not entirely sure how that kinda thing would play into "allegiances" and so on, but I mean, I'm not aware of anything really "dangerous" in the Scientology thing - mostly they just wanna avoid paying taxes, is like 90% of their deal....

That's what I mean, I just don't "get it".

You know, like okay, the holocaust bit I can understand. And I can even understand the China-Christians thing, 'cause like, China has a long history of being invaded by just about every nation and religion on the planet, and "they" take a very skeptical view towards religion in general, I mean, they certainly don't like Muslims very much either, and "even" the Buddhists (or more specifically, certain "kinds" of Buddhists) are pretty carefully watched. So, all that, kinda "makes sense".

But I mean, Germany? What are they worried about? I mean, I'm curious how the people there, rationalize this kinda thing. Are they admitting some kinda "national character" or something? They got more Muslims over there than you can shake a stick at, but I mean, Scientologists?

I must be missing something.....

Germans can be very strange

Only among the morally weak.

If you are really confident that your ideology is superior, why would you be afraid of new ideas?


Which is typical of the myopic and short sighted European cultures.

I am sure it never even occurs to them that banning ideas only gives them power, because it increases their mystique. Those people are such retards.


Case in point. To Americans (even most liberals) this is ridiculous.

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Joseph McCarthy and his Un-American Activities trials - was he morally weak?

Of course he was. Duh.

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