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Thread: Clue to Jews: The Left Hates You

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    Quote Originally Posted by thediplomat2.0 View Post
    As an American Jew, I can say that many Jews side with the left because we began many leftist movements. Leon Trotsky, Lenin's partner during the Russian Revolution was Jewish. Karl Marx was Jewish. We tend to be much more inclusive than other groups, and therefore lean towards the Democratic Party.
    Non Practising Jews with Anti-Zionist sentiments will always Side with Far Left ,even if it means fully abandoning Israel in times of Her Distress .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator Monroe View Post
    Non Practising Jews with Anti-Zionist sentiments will always Side with Far Left ,even if it means fully abandoning Israel in times of Her Distress .
    That is a hasty generalization, and I can provide a personal anecdote to prove so. I have a friend that went to religious school with me. When he turned 12, he became an atheist. I can honestly state that he is adamant about supporting Israel, much more than I am, yet he is anti-Zionist. He considers the modern Zionist movement overly nationalistic. He is in full support of a possible military strike by Israel on Iran, and even believes the United States should aid them. He believes Israel has the right to exist, and the right to defend itself.

    I have the same sentiments. Now, I am a reformed Jew. I fully support a possible military strike by Israel on Iran, believe Israel has the right to defend itself, and support the right of Israel to exist. I do not want the United States aiding Israel in a military strike unless they ask. I consider the Zionist movement overly nationalistic, not in its earlier form, because that is what allowed Israel to exist, but in its modern form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thediplomat2.0 View Post
    That is a hasty generalization, and I can provide a personal anecdote to prove so. I have a friend that went to religious school with me. When he turned 12, he became an atheist. I can honestly state that he is adamant about supporting Israel, much more than I am, yet he is anti-Zionist. He considers the Zionist movement overly nationalistic. He is in full support of a possible military strike by Israel on Iran, and even believes the United States should aid them.
    How many of the Band Waggon Anti-Zionists who post here at pf.com are of Jewish ancestry in your humble opinion ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator Monroe View Post
    How many of the Band Waggon Anti-Zionists who post here at pf.com are of Jewish ancestry in your humble opinion ?
    One. I had a discussion with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackrook View Post
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    Jews, it's time to wake up and smell the coffee. When the Muslims come for you, and they will, your friends on the left will step aside and allow it to happen.

    Look at the spineless way the liberal media spins this.

    "Some students" are offended? And then it becomes clearly that it was only Jewish students who were offended.

    Imagine the headline if some right-wing white power guy went to Berkley and said the same kind of crap. He'd be dodging rocks and bottles.

    And look at the mealy-mouthed way the President talks about the "free speech" rights of crazy Louie to spew out this hate and garbage.

    Do conservatives get this kind of concern from college administrations? No they do not. Try being a conservative and speak on any campus. The leftist students will shout you down and the campus police won't do a thing about it.

    But crazy Louie says whatever he wants and only "some students" are offended. No big deal, because it's only the Jews who are offended.

    Jews, ironically, make common cause with leftists, who behind their back, talk about Jewish conspiracies and all that.

    On the other hand, Jewish organizations are locked in constant legal battles with the evangelical Christians. And evangelical Christians are the biggest supporters Israel has. There are not enough Jewish voters to keep American politicians pro-Israel. The reason American politicians are pro-Israel is because of evangelical Christians.

    So let's walk this back a bit.

    I, as a pro-life conservative Catholic, have locked horns with many a Jew on this forum and every other forum I've been on. Most Jews oppose me on my pro-life views, which is ironic because Jews need all the kids they can get and can't afford to abort even one.

    And yet, I support Israel consistently on this forum and every other forum I've been on.

    So what Jews are doing is making common cause with their mortal enemies and fighting with their friends.

    At one point are Jews going to wise up?
    If the left hates Jews, whom do the left Jews hate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sent View Post
    Get this through your head.

    Millions of people did not die in the holocaust so that you could exploit their tragedy and use them to score nonsensically cheap political points. You tried to argue this garbage in another thread, where you desperately tried to link criticism received by the catholic church for their stance on contraception, to the holocaust and the extermination of Jews.

    Knock off your vile, insensitive, selfish, and revolting comparisons by exploiting the Jewish people and the tens of millions of people who were tortured and exterminated in the holocaust.

    Shame on you for continuing to peddle in this garbage. It's beyond deplorable.

    Really though. I can't believe you vote Democrat. If history means so much to you...then I wouldn't ignore it.

    If people hate jews they say so and yet Jewish people seem to ignore what is being said. It is interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiseAgainst View Post
    The Jews have a lot of things coming to them for multiple reasons I won't get into.

    I support them.
    Most from both political sides do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator Monroe View Post
    It's very trendy at 4 year colleges to Have issues with Israeli Jews & Zionists ,especially with Far Left leaning students & Faculty.
    The one thing that struck me the most during my time in Europe was the vehemence with which their "left" lambasted and condemned Jewish causes and Israel especially. I don't think it's any coincidence that our "far left" acts similarly, since it seems to emulate (what it thinks) is the "European way".

    Of course, Jew /= Israel, just like person /= nation...

    I would also interject that Blackrook's posts never cease to amaze me either... labeling people and insisting that "group X hates group Y" is the very essence if ignorant prejudice and the perfect opposite of what I feel is humanity's highest aim---thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thediplomat2.0 View Post
    One. I had a discussion with him.
    I suspect at least 3 of the ones who are Regular Posters ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gator Monroe View Post
    I suspect at least 3 of the ones who are Regular Posters ...
    Trust me, I am not a bandwagon anti-Zionist. I have always been against the Zionist movement, mainly because I have never been affiliated with it. I have, however, always supported Israel.
    Last edited by thediplomat2.0; Mar 11 2012 at 12:19 PM.

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