Thread: An effort to impeach Obama?

Originally Posted by toddwv

That's why the military needs to be drastically cut.

It requires constant conflict to justify its bloated budget and the rules that govern offensive action are too lax.

We can agree on this.

Our military needs to be reshaped to primarily serve national defense purposes.

Originally Posted by toddwv

That's why the military needs to be drastically cut.

It requires constant conflict to justify its bloated budget and the rules that govern offensive action are too lax.

We had a much larger military in the 1980s and there was very little actual combat.

Originally Posted by leftlegmoderate

I suppose you want to argue that since war has not been declared, that it's not "war".

Pretty neat trick they got going here. If Panneta et al. have their way, there will be no such thing as war, because according to them congressional approval for war is not even neccessary... henceforth, no declaration of "war".

Ford got no congressional approval for the Mayaguez incident. what is your point?

Originally Posted by leftlegmoderate

Regardless of party affiliation, no one should support the president having the ability to engage our military in action without the approval of our congress. We're sliding in the wrong direction. I'll say again to Obama fans, don't forget that your guy will be out of office someday... think carefully about what precedents are being set or expanded now, which can be abuse by somone else later.

no one should want to handcuff our president when it comes to wisely using the military as the strong and quickly reactive arm of foreign policy. Would you have wanted Obama to have to go to congress to get permission to take out OBL?

Originally Posted by camp_steveo

synopsis:
The first half of this video gives the context of what the major news media has NOT been reporting to you. North Carolina Congressman Walter Jones filed a House Resolution for the initial stages of impeaching President Obama due to the President's dictator-like actions of going to war and invading other countries (supposedly) authorized by the UN world government powers as well as NATO; NOT the Congress as authorized in the constitution

Vice President Biden has agreed to help impeach the President after explaining that indeed only the U.S. Congress has the power to declare war. Furthermore, he warned that any more undeclared wars such as the current war-mongered Iran fiasco will lead to an undoubtedly supported impeachment of the President.

BREAKING: Vice President Joe Biden Moves with Walter Jones to Impeach President Obama! - YouTube

Which of course is bull(*)(*)(*)(*) as Biden wasn't talking about Obama. However, we'll have to see if Obama leads us into war with Iran. Most wingnuts seem to want it, so in a sense they'd be hypocrites to impeach over it.

Originally Posted by expatriate

Ford got no congressional approval for the Mayaguez incident. what is your point?

What's your point?

I don't care what president is in office. I don't support skirting over congress when it comes to engaging in military activity. I definitely do not support other nations, world organizations, or leagues of nations having more clout than our own congress.

Originally Posted by expatriate

no one should want to handcuff our president when it comes to wisely using the military as the strong and quickly reactive arm of foreign policy.

And obviously, nobody should want our president acting rashly, or acting on poor/false reasoning.

Originally Posted by expatriate

Would you have wanted Obama to have to go to congress to get permission to take out OBL?

No, I don't agree with how Obama went about that. It seems to have been politically motivated anyhow.

Originally Posted by Sly

Which of course is bull(*)(*)(*)(*) as Biden wasn't talking about Obama.

That's the point. Biden was talking about Bush.

Originally Posted by Trinnity

Anything that gets him out is fine by me.
He's more dangerous to America than Al Qaeda could ever be.

I love it when so-called conservatives show their true colors by advocating ignoring the Constitution.

Originally Posted by leftlegmoderate

And obviously, nobody should want our president acting rashly, or acting on poor/false reasoning.

You're exactly right. Bush's invasion of Iraq is an example that we should never, ever forget.

No, I don't agree with how Obama went about that. It seems to have been politically motivated anyhow.

What do you disagree with about how he went about it? The U.S. had been trying to get Osama bin Laden since 9-11-2001 but you think the fact that Obama was successful was simply politically motivated? Really?