Thread: Witness: Martin attacked Zimmerman

Originally Posted by texmaster

We don't know and since we don't know why are you convicting Zimmerman without knowing all the facts?

The plausible explanation for Martin attacking Zimmerman was that Martin was getting stalked & threatened by Zimmerman ... known as flaming & baiting ...

Sound familiar ?

Originally Posted by mikezila

From what i've read, Zimmerman follows Martin, Martin asks Zimmerman if he's following him, Zimmerman says yes...goes to his car with his gun still in his pocket and somewhere in there, Martin starts punching and it ends with Zimmerman firing one shot.

Act like a thug, die like one.

Sounds like a plausible explanation to me, mikezila,

Will the irony in this remarkable case of victimization never end!

Originally Posted by exotix

The plausible explanation for Martin attacking Zimmerman was that Martin was getting stalked & threatened by Zimmerman ... known as flaming & baiting ...

Sound familiar ?

So you don't have all the facts.

Thanks for admitting that.

Now, can you explain why you are coming to conclusions without all the facts?

Originally Posted by texmaster

Please stop fabricating facts that don't exist.

Everything that I stated is accurate according to the known facts and the witness accounts.

Originally Posted by mikezila

from what i've read, Zimmerman follows Martin, Martin asks Zimmerman if he's following him, Zimmerman says yes...goes to his car with his gun still in his pocket and somewhere in there, Martin starts punching and it ends with Zimmerman firing one shot.

act like a thug, die like one.

Really? Who said that? Zimmerman?

Originally Posted by James Cessna

Good point, JP5.

Martin could have easily wrestled the weapon from Zimmerman, shot Zimmerman and then the discussions today would be very different.

The "Lefties” would be telling us how justified Martin was in killing Zimmerman!

Will the irony in this remarkable case never end!

No question at all.In fact that is why these Lefties and Protestors refuse
to even consider there was any ground scuffle.Because that means,it
WOULD be possible for the 9mm to easily go off or be sought after.
Which means there is an Activist movement to NOT be curious but rather
Suppress,Deny and Target.Target the shooter as obviously Guilty w/o
any doubt.Suppress any and all info that explains a confrontation.
Deny the Facts as established and use speculation,and urban myth
to support a claim for conviction.
This is one area that Chris Matthews CAN'T easily be used to help
out his lamestream.Because matthews is a former Capitol Police.
Matthews is THE only Lib thus far at MSNBC and CNN who is asking not
to jump to conclusions.He alone mentioned the report about a bloody
nose and back of head injury as well grass stains on his shirt.
No ... Not Matthews shirt ... dummies.

Originally Posted by Zosiasmom

Cheese and Rice.

1. We don't know that Martin attacked Zimmerman.
2. We don't know that Zimmerman was racial profiling.
3. We don't know that Zimmerman attacked Martin.
4. We don't know that Martin was only walking through the neighborhood innocently.
5. We don't know that Martin was NOT walking through the neighborhood innocently.

We only know that:

1. Martin is dead and Zimmerman is not.
2. That there is a witness stating that she saw Martin on top of Zimmerman
3. That Martin's girlfriend heard some of the event
4. That 911 told the neighborhood watch guy that he should wait for police
5. That Zimmerman disregarded the advice of 911
6. That Zimmerman's gun discharged, killing Martin
7. That Americans love to make a huge partisan issue out of everything and enjoy swapping victimization back and forth.

That pretty much sums it up.
One other factor at play here....the president of the United States felt a need, once again, to inject himself into the fray when he has none of the facts.... and stir things up racially. Not the first time he's done it; and probably won't be the last.

So let me get this straight. According to the right-whingers:

1) Zimmerman was acting in self-defense when he got out of the car, pursued an unarmed teenager, chased him down on foot and shot him.

2) Trayvon Martin was the aggressor because according to the ?Mystery Witness? whose account is directly contradicted by Trayvon's girlfriend who was on the phone, he was being chased by an armed older and much larger male on a dark and rainy night who was obviously aggressive and hostile.

Yeah...wow. Great law you have there...

This video adds nothing to what we already know. We know there was a scuffle. That has been known from the beginning. Trayvon, under the SYG law, had every right to defend himself from an attacker. If Martin was shot for defending himself then his attacker should be prosecuted.

Also, Zimmerman's own lawyer says the SYG law does not apply to Zimmerman.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/24/justic...ing/index.html

Originally Posted by Think for myself

Everything that I stated is accurate according to the known facts and the witness accounts.

Absolutely incorrect.

Please do not fabricate facts that do not exist.

If you continue to proclaim this please cite the facts that state Zimmerman pulled out the gun before the fight and who started the fight.

Go ahead.