Thread: Witnesses Back Up Zimmerman's Account Of Attack In Trayvon Martin Shooting

It is now clear.

Trayvon Martin did not like the fact George Zimmerman was following him. He walked up to Zimmerman, they exchanged words and Trayvon decked him.

Trayvon Martin was clearly the aggressor in this tragic incident.

"Zimmerman told them he lost sight of Martin and was walking back to his SUV when Martin approached him on his left from behind, and they exchanged words, according to police."

"With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked the neighborhood watch volunteer who eventually shot to death the unarmed 17-year-old, then climbed on top of George Zimmerman and slammed his head into the sidewalk several times, leaving him bloody and battered, authorities told The Orlando Sentinel."

"One witness, who has since talked to television news reporters, told police he saw Zimmerman on the ground with Martin on top, pounding him and was unequivocal that it was Zimmerman who was crying for help."

"When police arrived less than two minutes later, Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose, had a swollen lip and had bloody lacerations to the back of his head."

Case Closed. Problem solved. Trayvon's "machismo" clearly got the best of him.

With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked the neighborhood watch volunteer who eventually shot to death the unarmed 17-year-old, then climbed on top of George Zimmerman and slammed his head into the sidewalk several times, leaving him bloody and battered, authorities told The Orlando Sentinel.

That is the account Zimmerman gave police, and much of it has been corroborated by witnesses, authorities said.

Zimmerman has not spoken publicly about what happened, but that night, Feb. 26, and in later meetings police said he described and re-enacted for them what he says happened.

In Zimmerman's version of events, according to police, he had turned around and was walking back to his SUV when Martin approached him from behind, the two exchanged words and Martin punched him in the nose, sending him to the ground, and began beating him.

Zimmerman told police he shot the teenager in self-defense.

Civil rights leaders and millions of others have demanded Zimmerman's arrest, calling Martin a victim of racial profiling and Zimmerman a vigilante.

Martin was an unarmed black teenager who had committed no crime, they say, and who was gunned down while walking back from a 7-Eleven with nothing more than a package of Skittles and a can of Arizona iced tea.

Supporters have held rallies in Sanford, Miami, New York and Tallahassee, calling the case a miscarriage of injustice.

Police have been reluctant to provided details of all their evidence, but this is what they've disclosed to the Sentinel:

Zimmerman was on his way to the grocery store when he spotted Martin walking through his gated community.

Martin was visiting his father's fiancee, who lived there. He had been suspended from school in Miami after being found with an empty marijuana baggie. Miami schools have a zero-tolerance policy for drug possession.

Zimmerman called police and reported a suspicious person, describing Martin as black, acting strangely and perhaps on drugs.

Zimmerman got out of his SUV to follow Martin on foot. When a dispatcher asked Zimmerman if he was following the 17-year-old, Zimmerman said yes. The dispatcher told Zimmerman he did not need to do that.

There is about a one-minute gap during which police say they're not sure what happened.

Zimmerman told them he lost sight of Martin and was walking back to his SUV when Martin approached him on his left from behind, and they exchanged words, according to police.

Martin asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no and reached for his cellphone, he told police.

Martin then said, "Well, you do now" or something similar and punched Zimmerman in the nose, police said.

Zimmerman fell to the ground and Martin got on top of him and began slamming his head into the sidewalk, police said he told them.

Zimmerman began yelling for help.

Several witnesses heard those cries, and there has been a dispute about from whom they came: Zimmerman or Martin.

Lawyers for Martin's family say it was Martin, but police say their evidence indicates it was Zimmerman.

One witness, who has since talked to television news reporters, told police he saw Zimmerman on the ground with Martin on top, pounding him and was unequivocal that it was Zimmerman who was crying for help.

Zimmerman then shot Martin once in the chest from very close range, according to authorities.

When police arrived less than two minutes later, Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose, had a swollen lip and had bloody lacerations to the back of his head.

Paramedics gave him first aid, but he said no to going to the hospital. He got medical care the next day.

The U.S. Department of Justicelast week opened a civil rights investigation into the shooting, and Florida Gov. Rick Scott appointed a special prosecutor.

http://www.courant.com/community/man...,7159367.story

Sorry...we are past the point where anything like additional details, true or false, will affect anything...The story line is about race and nothing else matters.

Originally Posted by JIMV

Sorry...we are past the point where anything like additional details, true or false, will affect anything...The story line is about race and nothing else matters.

This, sadly, is true.

This is only about race if you have a hard time believing a guy who patrolled his neighborhood noticed someone who was not supposed to be there at that time but was due to his school suspension.

Uncle Ferd says, "Yea, dat's right - dat's how dey do it in Germany...

Court: Skin color OK for police to seek ID
March 27 (UPI) -- German police may single out black train passengers based solely on skin color to determine if they're illegal immigrants, a court ruled Tuesday

The Koblenz administrative court in North Rhine-Westphalia rejected a complaint by a black German man who argued with two federal police after they demanded to see his identity papers as he was traveled by train, The Local reported in its German edition.

Court documents indicated the man refused to show officers his papers and was removed from the train. At a police station, his backpack was searched and his driver's license found. Police charged the man in the incident. During a hearing, one of the officers said a person's skin color was one of the criteria he uses when trying to decide which travelers to check, court documents indicated. The man sued, saying the police officers' conduct was illegal.

The administrative court disagreed, ruling the officers didn't act illegally, but relied on their "border policing experience." The court noted that the man had been asked for identification on a route used for illegal entry into Germany although it didn't say where the incident occurred.

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/#ixzz1qNceRiOp

Originally Posted by James Cessna

It is now clear.

Trayvon Martin did not like the fact George Zimmerman was following him. He walked up to Zimmerman, they exchanged words and Trayvon decked him.

Trayvon Martin was clearly the aggressor in this tragic incident.

I don't believe it has ever been or ever will be clear.

We only have Zimmerman's own statement saying Martin approached him and struck first and we don't know the nature of the words exchanged or at what point, if at all, Martin was aware Zimmerman had a gun. There are possible sequences of events where Martin would have been the one legally defending himself on basis of the Stand Your Ground law, just as it's possible Zimmerman's statement is entirely honest and accurate.

Only two people truly knew exactly what happened that day and one of them is dead. Anyone else claiming to be clear on the details of the incident are lying, if only to themselves.

This is why we have judges and juries, presumption of innocence and reasonable doubt. This case should be addressed on that basis, not media priorities, personal prejudice and the general seem of racism running though pretty much all parts of US society.

There are a fair few furiously mining that purulent seam in threads such as this one.

The Latino guy is going to walk a free man. All the evidence points to self-defense. From all the facts I have read there isn't enough to convict him, no matter how much all the anti-racist/anti-White people want there to be.

Originally Posted by Colonel K

There are a fair few furiously mining that purulent seam in threads such as this one.

What's wrong with this thread other making libs look like fools?

What the left claims to want is justice and this witness exonerates Zimmerman.

Originally Posted by HonestJoe

I don't believe it has ever been or ever will be clear.

We only have Zimmerman's own statement saying Martin approached him and struck first and we don't know the nature of the words exchanged or at what point, if at all, Martin was aware Zimmerman had a gun. There are possible sequences of events where Martin would have been the one legally defending himself on basis of the Stand Your Ground law, just as it's possible Zimmerman's statement is entirely honest and accurate.

Only two people truly knew exactly what happened that day and one of them is dead. Anyone else claiming to be clear on the details of the incident are lying, if only to themselves.

This is why we have judges and juries, presumption of innocence and reasonable doubt. This case should be addressed on that basis, not media priorities, personal prejudice and the general seem of racism running though pretty much all parts of US society.

Don't forget the Grand Jury.

The Grand Jury will exonerate George Zimmerman.

The liberal media is cleary contributing more "fog" than truth.

Every day, their biased reports lose more credibility.