Sammy, stop a second, step back and listen to yourself. Do you realize how crazy you're sounding right now? The only to get that is to start with the conclusion that there are no contradictions and twist the text however you have to to make it fit. The sense of the second passage is obviously that humans were created first. And considering that we're dealing with a translation of a translation of a translation here, trying to completely change the sense of a passage on the basis of one "then" is just plain silly.
Bosses don't create jobs, customers do.
False! Yes, it would be best to look at the original Hebrew in context but we shall resort to analysis of the KJV translation, since most are not Hebrew experts here. We can still prove there is no contradiction.The sense of the second passage is obviously that humans were created first.
18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
From the passages above you can not determine that God created animals after man.
We already know from reading Genesis 1 that animals were created first.
Verse 19 doesn't state when in time God created animals. It only states that God created animals and Adam was given the opportunity to name them. Obviously Adam couldn't name them unless
man and the animals existed first. We can assume therefore that God created animals , then Adam and then later asked Adam to name the animals.
NB! Adam didn't find the animals as suitable helpers or mates and so God created Eve, not Steve.
God could have created Steve, but he didn't. Hence we can infer that gay marriage is
not God's plan or creation, but man's. We can also infer beastiality wasn't God's plan.
God's plan was to have one man and one wife as mates.
In case you feel that something is wrong in the United States today, you aren't crazy.
Obama has sent the United States into a decline never before seen in it's history. More than 500K college graduates entered the job market in May and less than 69K new private sector jobs were available for them. You do the math!
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belief is what is important, not so much what you believe, for instance, an ordinary sugar pill without belief helps no one, but with belief it can cure your ills and it can be quite the amazing little pill - the magic really comes from within - FreshAir
“A Christian man is the most free lord of all, and subject to none” Martin Luther
The Reformation Plants Seeds of Modern Democracy and Federalism
The Protestant Reformation led to modern concepts of Democracy
Reformation Faith & Representative Democracy
Luther’s doctrine of “the priesthood of all believers” also heavily influenced the emergence of representative democracy.
In politics, Democracy is the freedom of people. Democracy is based on the idea of all people are equal. As Luther says, “every baptized Christian is a priest already, not by appointment or ordination from the Pope or any other man, but because Christ Himself has begotten him as a priest…in baptism”, it depicts the idea of all Christian are equal and Popes don’t have super power over other people.
The debate Martin Luther began nearly 500 years ago turned the world upside down. Democracy, civil rights and liberties, constitutional government, religious liberty, and the free market all find their roots in the Reformation.
Well the US economy was far, far better under Clinton or Bush.I would prefer the Clinton economy before Bush got his hands on it..
The US economy is really in dire straights right now and getting worse.
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Obama has undone it all.
Republicans were more likely than Democrats to express racial prejudice in the questions measuring explicit (anti-black) racism (79% among Republicans compared with 32% among Democrats).
Source: 2012 AP Study on racial prejudice in America (link providee on request by PM)