Thread: Violent crime has been going down, right through the worst years of the downturn

Originally Posted by Zosiasmom

I would be fine with people addressing it if they would also admit to factors in society which may drive the type of anxiety and anger that propels and instigates these things. It is all complaining and no solution offering.

I agree. Discussing things objectively without labeling an entire race "animals" is quite acceptable. I don't know why many on this forum are incapable of doing that.

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Originally Posted by sec

I just want to clarify your definition of race baiting. Is it posting factually correct news stories?

Mmm... no. Solely posting violent crime stories about African Americans on a daily basis when the country is in a multiyear violent crime down trend. That is race baiting. There are plenty of violent crimes committed by white people as well. You don't see us posting new threads about those crimes on a daily basis. We have to question the OBSESSION. It is totally out of proportion to the facts on the ground.

Originally Posted by Jebediah

Perception vs Reality

Despite the concerted effort on this forum by certain people to use sensational headlines to push a racist agenda violent crime has been going down steadily for years. What is even more remarkable is despite the worst recession since the great depression that started during the Bush administration violent crime continues to go down. Unfortunately domestic violence has been going up. It is curious to me why there is not a hue and cry about the disturbing UPTICK in domestic violence (ie violence against women) but instead we get a bunch of racist flame bait threads about the DOWNTREND in overall violent crime.

We have the largest prison population in history, and almost all the states have Shall Issue CCW laws. These two facts explain much of the story. Also, people make the mistake of not taking into account that we are only talking about crimes that are actually reported to the police. Even then, these crimes may or may not be reported to the FBI who keeps the national crime stats. Crimes are often not reported or under-reported as lesser offenses by the police. There's your reality, Jeb.


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Hey Jeb, is it possible for black-on-white crime rates to be on the rise, even while the overall crime rate is trending downwards?

Ah, who am I kidding, you won't answer this question. I will. The answer is "yes".

Thread fail.

Originally Posted by DonGlock26

Also, people make the mistake of not taking into account that we are only talking about crimes that are actually reported to the police.

I'm pretty sure most MURDERS are reported to the police. Also that doesn't explain why certain racists exclusively start threads that only involve black suspects.

Crime Down? OK
Domestic Violence Up? OK

What happens when you give people 73 more weeks of unemployment?

Less necessity to commit violent crimes because Big Poppa Fed is helping you meet your bills. Of course, you aren't out working or thugging, so you're at home letting those naturally aggressive tendencies out on your kids or spouse.

Originally Posted by DonGlock26

We have the largest prison population in history, and almost all the states have Shall Issue CCW laws. These two facts explain much of the story. Also, people make the mistake of not taking into account that we are only talking about crimes that are actually reported to the police. Even then, these crimes may or may not be reported to the FBI who keeps the national crime stats. Crimes are often not reported or under-reported as lesser offenses by the police. There's your reality, Jeb.


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Don,

why do you feel that there is a war against whites? It is obviously a complex answer when dealing with culture. Moreover, I would not expect to hear trite, "grape soda" style arguments from someone like yourself. Please, explain your theory. I'd be happy to hear it.

Originally Posted by Jebediah

I'm pretty sure most MURDERS are reported to the police. Also that doesn't explain why certain racists exclusively start threads that only involve black suspects.

Your OP is titled - violent crimes.

Who are the racists? Remember Holder's injunction.


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These guys have an audience who is listening and willing. Having a President who went to a black liberation theology church for 20 years has empowered the message these guys are sending.