Oh, the old "national Security" catch phrase to go and kill anyone without actually explaining how there is a threat to national security. So let me get this strait, somehow if Iraq is turned over to international organizations to provide resources (troops and money) and provide international legitimacy to the rebuilding of Iraq, somehow this leads to a national security threat. What, are mysteriously missing WOMD going to pop out of the sand and start bombing us or something. Please enlighten me on how this is a "National Security" problem.

The U.S. has a responsibility to stop this. Right now, before it is too late, we need to bring in U.S. troops and toss out the United Nations. We are the ones who have the authority, the guns, the tanks and the troops. It should be our cause. Who the hell does the U.N. they think they are? We are the world’s police.

Get out UN. We are here!

One more thing, if you think that they are going to get that oil, forget it! We will use all means necessary to protect the oil in that region. This is our responsibility. We have an obligation to protect oil resources so the world market does not become disrupted.

This is our cause as Americans, and not just any Americans, but United States Americans.

If the international community expects "legitimacy" on their terms.....then why did they sit on their collective backsides for years regarding Saddam Hussein? How come they were willing to just "let Saddam off the hook" back in 1998? Could it be because they were reaping the benefits from the corrupt "Oil For Food UN Program?" Bottom line is....it was the U.S. and Britain and the coaltion of the willing who were willing to actually do something about Saddam Hussein. And yes, sometime this summer the UN will become more involved. And we'll be able to judge then just how well they handle it and how successful they are at the job. Based on their record, I sure as heck wouldn't want to turn over our national security to them.....as John Kerry wants to do.

And it was a "national security" problem because Iraq, under Saddam, was a state sponsor of terrorist groups. The billions he was getting off the "kickbacks" under the wonderful UN "Oil for Food" program is gone. Some of those billions have been found. But not all. So, where did it go? Funding terrorism perhaps? He certainly wasn't spending it on his own people. The world is better off without him. And most people know that......even those countries that did NOT help oust him.

Incidens? We are talking about pure etnic cleansing here... there will soon
be no more Serbs in Kosovo. And I dont actually belive that these are
matters any sort of a police force can handle. Local authorities are now
purely albanian n KFOR. Albanians wont do a thing ofcourse(are even helping "extreamests" ), n the KFOR
are in a position where they have no idea how to protect the Srbs, so they r
just secureing transport to south Serbia.

And to be honest, about your statement , those are nice words but give
little answers to actual problems.

Dusan,

What is best? Retailiate and make it worse and then see NATO occupy Belgrade?

Or making the Kosovar Alabanians look bad in front of the world community in the long run? because eventually they would be arrested. And if it is KFOR it is their responsibility to arrest and try them(But then Albania has troops next door to assist them) and I am sure that the Albanians and Kosovar Albanians are not on the same page.

LONG TERM:

They burn churches eventhough they could be rebuilt(The same with the Mosque), eventually they would be arrested, and eventually the truth will come out as for the origin of this FIASCO. To tell you the truth only the Kosovar Albanians will look bad in front of the EU/NATO and others.

Hmmm, I was thinking if Isreali police could be stationed there but then....that is just an idea or even that is all I could think of ...the Israelis with Turks and Greeks.

No, ofcourse to retaliate would be a terrible solution. I had nothing of that
sort in my mind when i posted my toughts to this forum. Deaths of more
people is the last thing anybody here needs.

What worries me, is a bit morfed picture of what`s actually going on here,
given by the western media.Often where ever you look you will see double
standards in various forms `n` intenseties. And everybody knows that
the media are the ultimate thing that form public opinion ( often a green
light for unapropriate action ).
And if you have a situation similar to this one here, where apsolutelly
everything that is to be done to help your people is limited to the will of
the UN, you would probably also want for that picture that goes out to the
world to be hones `n` fair.

About the Israelis,... well sinece the situation is as bad as it is right now,
n to tell you the truth I dont really see it getting better any time soon...
probably the only solution realistic here, is to split the territory, and for both
the Serbs and the Albanians to get their police force combined with KFOR.
But this would ofcourse mean that the International Community would have to confess that they made a nasty error in their Kosovo plans
( a very painfull thing... )

the fault of all!

It would be mistake to "carve up" Kosovo since this has been the plan of Serbian extremist parties!

To me, the Bosnia agreement is the biggest mistake ever! This agreement or plan would only make the Muslims of Bosnia the minority which in reality would only diminish their voice and in the long run create more Muslim extremists!

Forget Israel! I changed my mind, look what they just did! Sharon is a moronic clown! No discipline and no restraint just like a rabid dog as CEO of a company!

If there is ever going to be peace among Serbs and others, first they would all need a public apology from each side for the past crimes! All are guilty of something of the past and I recommend a public apology for each side for the past unjustice.

I must say I was a bit supprised by your views on splitting Kosovo.
What exactly do you mean by "this has been the plan of Serbian extremist
parties! ".
Just a remminder: "Kosovo is officialy still part of Serbia, and it was part
of Serbia for a long time".
The ones that want to separate are the Albanians. Isnt it perfectly logical
for the parts of Kosovo where Serbs are a majority ( the northern parts),
to stay part of Serbia?

Dusan,

Actually, it is the plan of the Serb and Croat extremist to "carve up" Bosnia so they could join their nations. Sadly, this is the goal rather than attaining an unversalist state( a state which embraces and highlights all aspects and cultures within the state ).

As for Kosovo, it would be an injustice if any side is denied cultural and religious freedom. It would also be an injustice if they continue in their ancestral misunderstandings or hatreds. I believe the rhetoric that: " Kosovo is part of Serbia" is something that fuels the Serbian extremist parties, eventhough, it is historically true. However, Kosovo is mostly inhabited by Albanians. I believe that many are making the mistake in Belgrade by assuming too much. Assuming that Kosovo will leave Serbia or that it is better that the Albanians should leave. This idea or ideas would only create the cycle of revenge like between Israelis and Palestinians. This idea of "retaking or regaining lost lands" is not a valid approach especially if that approach involves violence. The Israelis(Zionist Jews and not the Anti-Zionist Jews) have justified using religious sources and nationalism for expelling and using genocide to recreate Israel( but a secular one and not a religious one which contrary to the Torah) is a grave error. The same false religious-nationalistic logic is used by Serbian extremist parties and groups to justify genocide or mass murder.

If I was a Serbian, I would say: " Kosovo is part of our national identity but also part of our (new) national identity is to accept other religions and cultures within our territory". But I believe the hatred and suspicion is coming from both sides and this has to stop immediately. The "carve up" part is something which I think would come up if Bosnia is succesfully carved up by extremists from primarily two sides. Then the next logical course is to "carve up" Kosovo. You know, Yugoslavia did real well when it was together but thanks to Slobodan he has succesfully destroyed the unified through his blind national fanaticism which I think he used to save his political career. And Ofcourse, before attacking the others within this union he made promises of slaughter in Kosovo earlier before the Bosnian,Croatian,Slovenia conflicts.

First of all I must say your reply still doesnt answer my question from
above ... I still dont see what would be wrong If the northern parts of Kosovo, inhabitet mostly by Serbs would stay part of Serbia, n for the rest
of Kosovo to get its independence.

About the Serb n Croat extremists carving up Bosnia, thats a completely
different subject, so I wont get into it. But Ill just say that "that" is a pretty
marginal aproach to the subject it self.

By the way, as you might of noticed I havent mentioned "retaking or regaining lost lands" once in this topic, n its not a thing many people here consider.
On the other hand you keep leaning back to the subject...

About your views on old n new Serbian national identities...
Well I would say this, I get a feeling that your views on the Serbs as raceists
and a murderous bunch are over exaggeratet... and that you (as many of
the western people) think of the Serbs, and even Milosevic, too much as the
center of all Balkan problems. If you think that the Serbs are the ones
that keep the lead in untolerance in the region... I would advice you to look
up the statistics on percentual inhabitence of Serbia and other surrounding countries, now and before the conflicts started.
Now, if the Serbs are so racist, and all the others are just fine, why are there more non Serbian etnic groups in Serbia than in any Balkan country.
And keep in mind that there was a war in the region not long ago...
so there have been huge movements of the population in the region, people were running from all the violence.
And where did they go to? Croatia? I dont think so...
( type in googe "CIA Serbia", "CIA Croatia", "CIA Albania" and so on...
if you need the info).

Anyway, I think it would be best if people from Europe and the USA
could just take a short trip to Serbia, Bosnia, Albania from time to time, and see the things that happen here for them selves... when forming their opinions, instead of just absorbing the black-n-white television stories.
But since this is not likely... Ill keep posting my posts