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If America can elect a black president, does that mean we are past the need for entitlements, separatist entities like Black Entertainment Television, Ms. Black America, Afro American College fund and lower college admission standards for blacks?


With the falling dollar, can we continue to waste resources on those who are able, yet not willing to help themselves?


Isn't it time to hold people accountable for there actions and abolish the modern welfare system?






Many blacks simply abuse the charity of thy neighbor and rob the tax paying working class, it is time to get the monkey off our backs, this should be the first step in an effort to rebuild our economy, address domestic spending practices.


Is it also time to let Israel and many other countries that we waste resources on to support themselves?


The definition of insanity, is to do the same thing over and over, yet expect different results. This country, morally and economically is going down the vortex of hell, unless we make the necessary changes.


If not can you say Third world culture and nation?
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Old 01-22-2008, 08:42 PM
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There are plenty of whites who abuse entitlement programs as well. In some areas, as much as, or more than blacks. Are you proposing to cut them off too, or are you just racist?
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There are plenty of whites who abuse entitlement programs as well. In some areas, as much as, or more than blacks. Are you proposing to cut them off too, or are you just racist?
All dead weight, except the elderly and handicapped.

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The definition of insanity, is to do the same thing over and over, yet expect different results.
actually, i think thats the definition of conservative.


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If America can elect a black president, does that mean we are past the need for entitlements, separatist entities like Black Entertainment Television, Ms. Black America, Afro American College fund and lower college admission standards for blacks?
no, but it would be a step. those "separatist entities" are privately owned, if im not mistaken; i dont see how those things would change depending on the president. if you want white entertainment television, just switch to any channel besides BET and Telemundo and youll see mostly white people. ms white america was on decades ago, too (you mustve missed it).

as for african american college funds, those are also private im pretty sure, and would probably not change. lower admission standards arent unique to blacks, and dont always apply. the admission process is not entirely subjective for all colleges/universities, and this benefits people of all races and genders depending on their unique circumstances, along with diversifying the student body which benefits everyone.

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actually, i think thats the definition of conservative.


no, but it would be a step. those "separatist entities" are privately owned, if im not mistaken; i dont see how those things would change depending on the president. if you want white entertainment television, just switch to any channel besides BET and Telemundo and youll see mostly white people. ms white america was on decades ago, too (you mustve missed it).

as for african american college funds, those are also private im pretty sure, and would probably not change. lower admission standards arent unique to blacks, and dont always apply. the admission process is not entirely subjective for all colleges/universities, and this benefits people of all races and genders depending on their unique circumstances, along with diversifying the student body which benefits everyone.

oh, and you listen to snoop doggy dogg because you love rap.

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Many blacks simply abuse the charity of thy neighbor and rob the tax paying working class,
So do many whites.



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The definition of insanity, is to do the same thing over and over, yet expect different results.
You mean like how you post racist rants on here over and over expecting a different response?


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Theres the door.



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Kill all separatist and racist government practices.
You mean like tracking progam abuse by race?

Did you have to learn to be a hypocrite, or does it just come naturally to you?
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Here is my take on it.

To destroy racism and promote "equality" you need to in essence be ignorant to color. The problem I have with the issue of color is the fact such as B.E.T and NAACP and things like that establish themselves for "The Advancement of Colored People". If the equality is truly so important why is it not "The National Associate for the Advancement of the Peoples"?. People such as Jesse Jackson, to me, are some of the most racist people. The Jena six for example. They where being treated the same way anyone would if they stomped a kid half to death, even if the kid drew a sign that said "All EDIT should die" the action of stomping him down IS a crime and they should have to pay the price regardless what preceded it.

Also, when people such as Barrack Obama run for the president of the United States or Devall Patrick becomes the governor of MA, the first thing the bias News Media(the ultimate causation of most of the USA's problems) says is that "Is the USA ready for a black president." or "It's history in the making." rather than "The person with the best policies for the betterment of the peoples wellbeing got elected, who just happens to be black."

That brings me to my next point, If a white man scores a 80% on an admissions test, but a black man scores a 75% the black man 99% of the time will get in first. THIS IS RACISTnot against whites, but it makes it clear that there is a distinction between the races and that one race needs a handicap over the other, but still a black kids comes from a middle class family does EDIT work all his life and gets a 2.9 gpa when applying to college a white male from the trailer park may work hard and try to get out but can only manage a 3.2 gpa, well unknown to him the college just accepted the black kid because of a quota. This philosophy of "Helping" underprivileged kids is perfectly fine, as long as the white, brown, black, blue, and purple children all get the same opportunities, now before I finish my rant you may say "The majority of blacks live in slums thats why there is these handicaps." That may be true but it is up to them to pursue knowledge almost every city has at least 2 public libraries.


These In my opinion apply to the issue between sexes as well.
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the first thing the bias News Media(the ultimate causation of most of the USA's problems)
Wow. The media is all-powerful.

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"Firsts" are news. The first black or the first woman or the first Mormon is news, just like the first Catholic (JFK) and the first divorcee (Reagan) were.
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If America can elect a black president, does that mean we are past the need for entitlements, separatist entities like Black Entertainment Television, Ms. Black America, Afro American College fund and lower college admission standards for blacks?


With the falling dollar, can we continue to waste resources on those who are able, yet not willing to help themselves?


Isn't it time to hold people accountable for there actions and abolish the modern welfare system?
If people could keep the money they make, there would be no need for social programs. The federal government wants a population of people that relies on them, people that hope the federal government will fix all their problems.

Its not a racial issue- its a poverty issue. If you believe it is a racial issue, you are falling for their seperatist ploy- hook, line and sinker.


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Many blacks simply abuse the charity of thy neighbor and rob the tax paying working class, it is time to get the monkey off our backs, this should be the first step in an effort to rebuild our economy, address domestic spending practices.
No, the first step is to abolish federal income tax. As well, once again, this is not a racial issue. The government loves it when people such as yourself turn it into a racial issue, because it seperates the population- and nothing gets done. You are playing into their hands.

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Is it also time to let Israel and many other countries that we waste resources on to support themselves?
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The definition of insanity, is to do the same thing over and over, yet expect different results. This country, morally and economically is going down the vortex of hell, unless we make the necessary changes.
People have been blaming black people for the social programs and their problems for decades. It seems you HAVE been doing the same thing over and over.


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If not can you say Third world culture and nation?
The term "third world" is actually an obsolete term, since globalization has divided the world into 2 worlds: the haves and the have nots.
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If people could keep the money they make, there would be no need for social programs.
That's simplistic. People without jobs don't make money. People with expensive medical problems can easily fail to make enough money to cover the bills. Even without income tax, there will be millions of people who don't make enough to survive on their own.

Unless you're willing to see those people and their families starve -- and are willing to accept the crime and social unrest that goes with such things (people rarely face extinction quietly) -- your argument must be that private charity would take care of everything if people weren't taxed. That's a nice, unprovable theory. Though I'll note that there's scant historical data to support such a claim. Government social programs arose, in large part, because of the failure of the private system to deal with such things.

Never mind that income taxes pay for many things besides welfare programs.
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