Really?

When did we start, exactly?

must not have newspapers in texas if you think only the 9/11 victims were those deprived of their civil liberties

was unaware that many other innocents were saved as a result of the commitment to torture ... please share the source of information used to document those saved innocents

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Yeah.....and, they're so (obviously) proud o' themselves, for it, too!

Anyone who's been paying-attention knows the Bush Admin endorsed torture, as soon as they were able.

Yes they do, and here is what they had to say:


Here is the account of a reporter who paid $800 to under go waterboarding and see what all the fuss was about.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=16012903

One Senior White House lawyer decided to experience it for himself:

He was fired shortly after.


I won't post the hundreds of stories of US soldiers waterboarded by our enemies. But I will bet you can guess what word everyone of them used to describe the technique.


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George W. Bush "I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building"

Blasphemy is a victimless crime.

This is not a "left" or "right" issue. It is an issue of the United States' behavior on the world stage.

Torture goes against the founding principles of this country, and you are spitting venom on those principles. Congratulations. There IS NO reasoning for the United States to engage in practices that even vaguely resemble what a Communist regime would do. I'm sorry that "bores" you.

The current foreign policy tries to "spread democracy" through promotion. It doesn't work- it has to be done through attraction, not promotion. Living examples speak volumes, words are just words.

http://www.reuters.com/article/domes...e=domesticNews

Make that four confirmed cases of waterboarding.

This is astounding work; somehow the military lost a year's worth of documents about one of the most high-suspect people in Gitmo. This administration sure has a record-keeping problem: billions of dollars lost in Baghdad, millions of emails vanishing out of thin air, erased videos... It's a liberal conspiracy, I tell ya'.

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Purists are intolerably dull-thinkers.

After 9/11

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there is no "mostly unique;" thats like saying "sometimes always," its an oxymoron - its either one or the other.

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By the mid-19th century unique had developed a wider meaning, “not typical, unusual,” and it is in this wider sense that it is compared. The comparison of so-called absolutes in senses that are not absolute is standard in all varieties of speech and writing.

Thank you.

Saving thousands of lives is plenty reason enough. I'm not the only one bored by this non-story, believe me.

We didn't use waterboarding before 9/11. So how come Al Qaeda didn't become a democracy? Because us being an example isn't good enough.

If liberals want to be able to feel good about themselves and "claim the high ground" at the cost of thousands of lives then I say have at it. My priorities are for those who live, not those who do the killing. But like crime, liberals have a tendency to feel more sympathy for the murderers than the victims. I see a similar dynamic here.

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JMS gets another English lesson:

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there is no "mostly unique;" thats like saying "sometimes always," its an oxymoron - its either one or the other.

The result:

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By the mid-19th century unique had developed a wider meaning, “not typical, unusual,” and it is in this wider sense that it is compared. The comparison of so-called absolutes in senses that are not absolute is standard in all varieties of speech and writing.