DNC suggest Florida/Michigan hold new votes..

DuH2 · #1 (**permalink**) 02-11-2008, 02:03 AM

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DNC Suggests Michigan, Florida Hold Caucuses to Reclaim Lost Delegates
Wednesday, February 6, 2008

LANSING, Mich. — The Democratic National Committee is pressuring Michigan and Florida to hold Democratic presidential caucuses so the delegates they’ve lost for holding January primaries could be seated at the national convention, a top Michigan Democrat said Wednesday.

DNC member Debbie Dingell said it’s unclear whether either state would hold caucuses since they’ve already held primaries. But she said the DNC is asking the two states to consider such a plan.

DNC spokesman Damien LaVera had no comment.

But Michigan Democratic Chairman Mark Brewer said the DNC isn’t saying anything it hasn’t said before to Michigan and Florida.

”Everybody involved, the candidates, the DNC and we, need to remain open-minded. So if someone comes up with a creative way that meets everyone’s interests, we can do that” and get the delegates seated, he said.

Florida Democratic Party spokesman Mark Bubriski agreed with Brewer that the DNC’s position isn’t new. But he said the party has no intention of holding another election.

”We’ve said all along that we’re going forward with our delegate selection program using the vote on Jan. 29,” he said. ”We’ve got more delegate applications than ever.”

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Both states were stripped of their delegates after they violated DNC rules by holding their primaries in January. Democratic leaders in the two states expect the delegates will get seated at the convention, and Clinton said a week and a half ago that she planned to ask her convention delegates to support seating the Michigan and Florida delegations.

So far Obama has not heeded her call to do the same, and it’s unlikely he would if it means Clinton would get the larger share of delegates from both states. Florida has 185 pledged delegates and 25 superdelegates who face not being seated at the convention, while Michigan has 128 pledged delegates and 28 superdelegates.

Brewer said he has continued to talk to both the Clinton and Obama campaigns, stressing that Michigan is an important state for either candidate to win in November. Florida officials have said their swing state also could be crucial to a Democrat getting into the White House.

”We’ve got to win Michigan in November. And you don’t win Michigan in November by refusing to seat Michigan in August,” Brewer said. ”So somehow, this has got to be worked out.”

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/...ost-delegates/

The party types in the states seem to be arguing.."uh we had a vote live with it." Makes sense.
Hillary is certainly going to take that position. As it helps her..but to be fair she's right there is no need for another vote.

Look-

Michigan-
Candidate Raw # %
Hillary Clinton 328,151 55
Uncommitted 236,723 40
Dennis Kucinich 21,708 4
Mike Gravel 2,363 0

Florida-

Candidate Raw # %
Hillary Clinton 856,944 50
Barack Obama 568,930 33
John Edwards 248,575 14

There is no need for a new vote in either case.

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In the event of this going to the convention...thats 2,263,394 Americans the DNC would have to ignore.
Never happen.

"I'm not some Tammy Wynette standing by my man."

JavaBlack · #2 (**permalink**) 02-11-2008, 04:01 AM

I have mixed feelings.
I think the DNC should hold its ground and not seat our delegates, if only because it's gone this far. It may have been a dumb move, but consistency is important.
But if they are going to seat delegates... which they are... I'm for the revote.
The last thing any of us need is for Hillary to win as the result of Michigan and Florida delegates with skewed results from an election that wasn't supposed to count.

But even that will screw things up. What about Democrats who voted in the GOP primary due to the expected pointlessness of the election.

This just gets more and more retarded as time goes by.

raptor5618 · #3 (**permalink**) 02-11-2008, 06:04 AM

They voted and they should count them. Perhaps only at a lower ration like 50% but a redo is silly. That many people voted even when they knew it would not count and they want to totally disregard that, a very bad move I think.

usgrant7 · #4 (**permalink**) 02-11-2008, 06:04 AM

Don't you think that the dems will be hurt by the sanctions they imposed on these states, in November?

DuH2 · #5 (**permalink**) 02-11-2008, 05:20 PM

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This just gets more and more retarded as time goes by

Which is why they(the DNC) should accept the state party positons and apply the delagtes either in full or as the Republicans did in half as early as possible.

SO that these two states do not end up being a big part of the end decision.
If they do not do something soon it will become a Conspiracy Theorists Dream.

Fear-And-Loathing · #6 (**permalink**) 02-11-2008, 05:46 PM

I'm annoyed that I could not vote in the Florida Democratic Primary. I'm finding the Democrats are going to have to convince me more for my vote because of it.

If Alienation is what he Democratic party stands for, then count me out!

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