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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Dawg View Post
    It makes me think can some people on here actually read English? I think they are just reading the first post and piling in,some people will believe any old rubbish posted on some daft website and repeated on faux news.
    Yeah you're right. There is just no sense in arguing with some people. We all know what their real problem with the President is. Let's see what kind of song they are singing on Wednesday.
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    Granny says dem non-union rumors not true...

    Alabama utilities deny anti-union 'rumor'
    Nov. 2 (UPI) -- Three Alabama utility companies Friday denied reports their crews weren't permitted to help restore power in New Jersey because the workers were non-union.
    Several conservative media organizations -- including Fox News and the Drudge Report -- picked up a story from an Alabama TV station that crews from Huntsville Utilities and Joe Wheeler Electrical Membership Corp. weren't allowed to help with electrical service restoration in New Jersey because they don't belong to a union. A third Alabama utility, Decatur Utilities, said its employees were asked to affiliate with a union before starting to work on the power restoration in the aftermath of superstorm Sandy, AL.com reported.

    Huntsville Utilities spokes Bill Yell said nine of his company's employees were working in New Jersey. "That's a rumor," he said of the report that workers who traveled to New Jersey to help out were being turned away. Joe Wheeler EMC said on its website reports that its workers were turned away from Hurricane Sandy relief efforts "are not true." "Joe Wheeler EMC was never commissioned to go to New Jersey or New York," the company said. "Instead, JWEMC sent eight linemen to Denton, Maryland, to help out Choptank Electric Cooperative."

    The statement said JWEMC crews were returning to Alabama from Maryland. "Joe Wheeler EMC employees are members of The International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers - Local 558 union," the company said. "Any reports that claim JWEMC is not unionized are false." Yell and JWEMC spokeswoman Mandi Phillips told AL.com they have been swamped with media inquiries following reports of the matter on cable channels, including Fox News and CNN, as well as in several New Jersey newspapers.

    Yell noted that in cases where crews are sent to other states to help in emergencies, "it's not a situation where everybody jumps in truck and heads up there. You have to work through trade associations. You have mutual-aid agreements and you've got to find a system that needs you and is able to take you." He said not all electric systems use the same voltage and technical configurations.

    Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/...#ixzz2B7KlAvo5
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    New Jersey struggles with gas supply
    Nov. 2 (UPI) -- New Jersey residents are grappling with gasoline shortages in the aftermath of hurricane Sandy.
    U.S. Sens. Frank R. Lautenberg , D-N.J., and Robert Menendez, D-N.J., on Thursday called for U.S. President Barack Obama to release emergency fuel supplies to the state. "We are dealing with a crisis on the ground with rescue and recovery where millions are without power and without basic necessities. Furthermore, our constituents are sitting in lines up to a mile long waiting to fuel their vehicles, tying up local resources that are managing traffic conditions in these areas," the senators wrote in a letter to Obama. "Additional resources" are needed to transport fuel to gasoline stations that have electrical power, the senators said.

    As of Thursday, more than 1.7 million customers in New Jersey remained without power, down from more than 2.7 million at the peak of outages, The Star-Ledger newspaper in Newark, N.J., reports. Without electricity, the gasoline can't be pumped. "This is not a supply problem. This is a delivery problem," Sal Risalvato, executive director of the New Jersey Gasoline, Convenience Store and Automotive Association was quoted as saying by the newspaper. "There is plenty of supply. We just can't get it from those big tanks you see along the (New Jersey) Turnpike through the channels that put it in customers' cars."

    About 75 percent of the stations of the approximately 1,000 gas retailers the association represents were closed Thursday either because they had no gasoline or no power or neither of the two. "The quick and dirty is that in the Northeast, about 24 percent of the refining capacity that was in the line of the storm is out," Addison Armstrong of Tradition Energy told CNBC. "That's really just two refineries, the Bayway refinery in New Jersey and another smaller refinery there." Charlie Drevna, head of the American Fuel and Petrochemicals Manufacturers Association, said the service stations are the microcosm of the problems that refiners have of delivering the fuel. "You have service stations that have full tanks and no power, and you have service stations that had fuel and they are running out rapidly," he told Platts news service. "It's just going to take time to get all this sorted out. The problem is power and flooding, whether it's at the refinery or at the terminal or anywhere along the route."

    Andrew Lipow, president of the consulting firm Lipow Oil Associates in Houston said that energy operations in the Linden and Bayway area are responsible for about three-quarters of the fuel consumed in the New York metropolitan area. "There's really no amount of catch up that the system can do with all of the Jersey terminals shut down," he told CNBC. "My estimate is it will be seven to 10 days," before the situation normalizes. "It's going to be tough. Stay home. Conserve your gas," Lipow advised.

    Read more: http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Ene...#ixzz2B7N0MTvW
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Dawg View Post
    It makes me think can some people on here actually read English? I think they are just reading the first post and piling in,some people will believe any old rubbish posted on some daft website and repeated on faux news.
    Most people here don't read the linked articles. Heck, I've found most people who post the articles don't even actually read them. I mean, if PatriotNews had, he would have realized this all came about from a big misunderstanding.
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    Look (*)(*)(*)(*)it, stop pointing fingers at everybody. If the story isn't true, that's fine, but I for one listened to the report from the Alabama TV station, and I had no reason to disbelieve it !
    There was audio of some workers calling some of the workers "scabs" and other names. If it was completely manufactured then someone needs to further investigate this, but I know what I heard.
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    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for the liberals, and I did not speak out--
    Because I was rolling on the floor laughing my ass off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lil Mike View Post
    Wow. Well, if they really want to freeze in the dark, more power to them.
    Less, Baby, less.
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    The true beauty of such a story is that even if it isn't 100% true, it's 100% believable. It meets expectations for a union sheeeethole like NJ.
    My sig has run afoul of the tiny scolds again, proving the truth of it.
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    Here are some comments left on the local Alabama TV station's website. I want to post them just to show that no one here was trying to lie to anyone. This was a story reported, and many of us heard it.


    The views expressed here do not necessarily represent those of Local 15

    cytomama - 7:04 PM 1 Vote Report User Which crew was in the RECORDING I heard being called "scabs" and other non-mentionable names? Someone is reporting the wrong story....or is this a liberal sympathizing news source??? Hmmmmm.......
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    hillbilleter - 5:27 PM 0 Votes Report User Residents don't know where the utility companies equipment is or how many are needed to work on it, or even which crews are qualified to work on which equipment. Taking the word of residents isn't getting the word of the experts. We were without power for ten days at Christmas a couple of years ago and the crews that showed up couldn't work on our utility equipment until they had the proper tools shipped in. The equipment here was different than what they had where they lived. It isn't standardized, which creates some major problems when disaster strikes.
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    John S - 3:20 PM 0 Votes Report User Local 15 news needs to correct this story.
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    John S - 3:05 PM 1 Vote Report User Well, we are hearing a different story.
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    sbmom - 2:32 PM 2 Votes Report User I read that military aircraft were used to transport crews from California. If Alabama crews were there before the storm but not needed imediately afterwards, why did the California crews have to be airlifted to the destruction area after our crews left? Long Island residents disagree with statements that enough power crews were working.
    http://www.local15tv.com/mostpopular...SUzKLxEew.cspx
    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for the liberals, and I did not speak out--
    Because I was rolling on the floor laughing my ass off.

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    Confusion causes utility crew to return from recovery effort

    DECATUR, AL (WAFF) - A Decatur Utilities crew left Alabama to help with storm recovery in New Jersey, but did not make the trip because of what they are now calling confusion over union paperwork.

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    Utility crews volunteered with Sandy recovery. See photos.
    The six-man crew staged in Virginia, but Decatur Utilities said they were never able to get in touch with officials or utility companies in New York or New Jersey. While the crew stood down in Virginia, Decatur Utilities officials claimed they received a union contract they thought they would have to agree to before helping storm victims.

    General Manager Ray Hardin appeared on Fox Business Channel Friday morning saying, "We were presented documents from IBEW that required our folks to affiliate with the unions and that was something we could not agree to."

    Decatur Utilities later released a statement expanding on that, "Upon arriving at a staging area in Virginia, crews were held in place pending clarification of documents received from IBEW that implied a requirement of our employees to agree to union affiliation while working in the New York and New Jersey areas. It was and remains our understanding that agreeing to those requirements was a condition of being allowed to work in those areas."

    Late Friday at a press conference, Hardin said the documents actually came from Electric Cities of Alabama, a coalition of the state's municipally owned utilities.

    Bottom line, it appears now that Decatur Utilities wrongly assumed they would have to agree to the union contract before traveling to New Jersey to help with recovery efforts. The IBEW said in times of crisis, help is welcomed from union and non-union utility workers.

    Hardin said as they waited for confirmation on the documents, crews received word that Seaside Heights had received the assistance they needed from other sources.

    "At this stage, it is not clear who is alleged to have turned the crew away and the company that employs the affected workers has denied the claim," said IBEW President Ed Hill in a statement. "IBEW local leaders in New Jersey have reiterated what has been the long standing record of our union – in times of crisis all help is welcome and we pull together with everyone to meet the needs of the public. We have communicated this to the office of New Jersey Governor Christie as well."

    The crew from Decatur Utilities attempted to look for work in other areas, but Hardin said based on the uncertainty of other union requirements, they made the decision to return home after being stalled in Virginia most of the day Thursday.

    Other utility crews from Alabama are still helping with storm cleanup. Huntsville Utilities said they were not turned away and are in Long Island, New York. Joe Wheeler EMC said they did not respond to New Jersey, but did travel to Maryland and headed home once they were finished.
    http://www.14news.com/story/19981857...sandy-recovery
    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for the liberals, and I did not speak out--
    Because I was rolling on the floor laughing my ass off.

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    At this point, I want to know about the audio of the namecalling. Was it completely manufactured, or a different incident, etc. ?
    First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
    Because I was not a Socialist.

    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
    Because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for the liberals, and I did not speak out--
    Because I was rolling on the floor laughing my ass off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio Refugee View Post
    The true beauty of such a story is that even if it isn't 100% true, it's 100% believable. It meets expectations for a union sheeeethole like NJ.
    I'm surprised. Propagandists are usually smart enough not to make their motives clear.
    “I get a kick out of being an outsider constantly. It allows me to be creative. I don't like anything in the mainstream and they don't like me.”
    ― Bill Hicks

    Americans are easily startled, but they'll soon be back...and in greater numbers.


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