Hi friends,

I follow the new about the independency of the Kosovo. But it seems the reason for and against a indendency isn´t part of the new/discussion. I have read a forum created by Albaner and it seems the only reason for them is their hard time during the war. They say they have suffered so much that they will feel better in a own country.
But so far I havent found any reason against their independency.

I would like to ask you guys to consider only reasons regarding Serbien and Kosovo people. I am aware why different countries have interests or not in the independency of the Kosovo.

добрий вечір товариш !! This is too simple ! Kosovo is an ancient and historic Serbian land. The Kovovubians are the invaders and have no rights even to live in Kosovo much less have and rights and the most outrageous is to allow the invaders to gain independence.

I find it so hypocritical that the Russians actually support the Sebians since the Russians themselves have invaded foreign lands just as the Kosovibians did. Aall Kosovibians should have been expelled from Serbia and sent back to Albania where they belong. That would be the right thing to do buut the world does not want to do what is right!!

Serbia was raped by the Kosovubians and the rest the world stood by and assisted !!! SHAME SHAME SHAME!!

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That's what I'm talking about... My man!

Exactly. Very well put.

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Where were you people when all of it began?

I have spoken out against Albanian- Kosovubian treachery on this and other sites under various pseudonyms. I also speak up about the treachery of the Russians for their murderous and imperialstic history. I always speak out against invaders, imperialists, and any bad actors such as Muslim terrorists.

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"I will not take the low road to the highest office in the land" - Guess Who? You go it !

However as far as I can tell you all did this too late.

Arguing about it now would be like debating the merits of Hillary and Obama after their democratic convention. It would make for interesting discusion and we may well have a thread like it here.

But it would be too late to change the outcome. Your time to make a diffeernce was in the year long window between the UN proposing independence and Feburary. And crunch time was sometime in January where everybody who cared about the issue over here knew what independence was going to be declared and a number of nations were lined up to recognize it.

The US can't exactly un-recognize them at this point.

Now you'll have to wait until the Kosovo govermentment collapses or goes corrupt/radical. And if it doesn't you'll have to wait a long long time. Well, unless the Russians invade or something but I think they'd do better saving their energy for Cechenia or Georgia.

A few reasons against independence:

#3 - Degrading relations with Russia, China, Iran, India, and many other countries
#2 - Punishing Serbia for Milosevic's crimes (taking away Serbian land)
#1 - Giving power to Mujihadeen (even if they come to be a minority in Kosovo's parliament)

A few reasons for independence:

#3 - To end fighting in the Balkans between Serbians and Albanians (when it had been quelled for almost ten years)
#2 - A cooperative government on the exterior.
#1 - Giving land and complete autonomy to people who were (notice 'were', not 'are') oppressed.

Spreading democracy is not on the list because Serbia already is democratic, the UN never let them represent Kosovo after 99.

Au contraire - The nation is not recognized by the UN, it really is not a nation at all; American and British troops will act as a peace patrol in the coming years, while money is given to the government *cough* terrorists. And the Kosovars will become wealthy, and the parliament will become philanthropic, and the army will become peaceable (sarcasm). It is never too late to reverse injustice. And it should be never late enough to compromise.

This week merrymakers in Pristina waving Albanian and American flags shouted “KLA! KLA!” – the supposedly disbanded, heroin-financed “rebels” who trained in terrorist camps. “What is the point of fighting Islamism in Iraq,” asks the Brussels Journal’s Landen, “while at the same time one creates a free haven for Islamists on the European continent?” He adds, “The Jerusalem Post reported in 1998 that the [KLA] was ‘provided with financial and military support from Islamic countries,’ and had been ‘bolstered by hundreds of Iranian fighters or mujahedin [some of whom] were trained in Osama bin Laden’s terrorist camps in Afghanistan.’”
http://www.bnp.org.uk/2008/02/23/kos...new-beachhead/

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Very true!

I agree... Serbia feels as the battle for the truth and for Kosovo has just begun.

Justice is slow, but not unreachable!

Well like I said if the country comes apart/goes fundamental Serbia could easily get them back.

On the other hand the Serbs across the boarder may provide a mighty incentive to keep their noses clean.

They know the US doesn't have to do anything to the country if they go wayward. We just have to turn our backs and walk away. I'm sure the people in the special forces under Milosevic have not forgotten how it's done over nine years time.

On that note the War in Kosovo wiki entry has been nearly totally rewritten. Serb massacres out, mujadeen in, the United States is now bad and unreasonable.

The Serbs are busy little bees. I'll give you credit for that.

Still the ball is Kosovo's court. You can edit things up and throw out stuff so that it appears that the KLA, in fact, massacred themselves along with many Serbs, Albanians, and maybe the Americans blew up the gang from Scooby Doo who just wanted to solve a mystery. But what will matter the most is what Kosovo does in the future.