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Old 02-28-2008, 05:48 AM
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Let me repeat this for the last time: there was no ethnic cleansing before NATO's bombing campaign. Period.
Well first off all I hope even you will admit that what happened in Bosnia wasn't a tea party. And that set a precident for what we knew you were capabale of and Milsovec was prone to do.


But, technically, we do agree with you that there wasn't ethnic cleansing in Kosovo before NATO's campaign. Up to that point you were just gearing up for it and had only harshly oppressed the Albanians and had a number of small massacres.

But shortly after the bombing the forces Milsovec had been moving in got to work on trying to rid Kosovo of Albanians.

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Old 02-28-2008, 06:03 AM
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The Northern part of Mitrovica you mean? You see that would cause problems. Don't forget that there are 3 Albanian municipalities just outside the border of Kosovo; i.e Presheva,Bujanovc, & Medvegje. They used to be apart of Kosovo, but are now occopied by Serbia.
How does one 'occupy' one's own territory? WTF?
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understand is that Serbs will never forget those airstrikes of NATO, led by the USA.
Good. That means they may think twice before ethnically cleansing someone else next time.

If hatred of the US is what is required to stop them from doing that, then hatred of the US is an acceptable alternative.
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Old 02-28-2008, 01:22 PM
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But I think xDonnax is right in the short term at least. Those troops are still there and would keep the Albanians from getting out of line.
^^ Goes both ways, and we shall not for get that the Serbs are not the only minority group.

Anywho, besides the international military presence, you have;

International Civilian Presence


An International Civilian Representative (ICR), who will also be the EU Special Representative (EUSR), will be appointed by an International Steering Group (ISG) comprised of key international stakeholders.

The ICR will be the final authority in Kosovo regarding interpretation of the civilian aspects of the Settlement.

The ICR will be supported by an International Civilian Office (ICO). The ICO will be smaller and its role will be substantially different than UNMIK.

Unlike UNMIK, the ICR will not have an executive mandate to administer Kosovo.The ICR will have specific powers to allow him/her to take the actions necessary to oversee and ensure successful implementation of the Settlement. The ICR may, for example, correct or annul decisions by Kosovo public authorities that he/she determines to be inconsistent with the letter or spirit of the Settlement.

The mandate of the ICR will continue until the ISG determines that Kosovo has implemented the terms of the Settlement. The ISG will conduct its first review of the status of settlement implementation after two years.



European Security and Defence Policy (ESDP) Mission

An ESDP Mission, under the direction of the EUSR, will assist Kosovo in the development of effective, fair and representative rule of law institutions.

The ESDP Mission will have the authority to ensure that specific sensitive crimes are properly investigated, prosecuted, and adjudicated, including, where appropriate, by independent international prosecutors and judges.

The ESDP Mission will also have the authority to assume limited executive functions to ensure the maintenance and promotion of the rule of law, public order and security.



( Taken from Ahtisaari's Plan )http://www.unosek.org/unosek/en/statusproposal.html

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Old 02-29-2008, 07:26 AM
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Yeah, that's a lot of oversight. But you guys consider that a good thing at this point right?
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Yeah, that's a lot of oversight. But you guys consider that a good thing at this point right?
Of course, and I do thing it is needed, at least for now.
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Good. That means they may think twice before ethnically cleansing someone else next time.

If hatred of the US is what is required to stop them from doing that, then hatred of the US is an acceptable alternative.
IRAQ!?!?

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What about it. Case in point actually.

A hostile democratic Iraq is preferrable to a friendly Saddam-Iraq. We still came out ahead IMO.
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